Because Jesus would join the Air Force, too

[erestor]

Plaintiffs say Air Force recruiters told to use religion as tool(...) The 12-page court filing says guest speakers at conventions of Air Force recruiters in 2003 and 2005 told Burleigh and other recruiters that "they needed to accept Jesus Christ in order to perform their job duties" and "to use faith in Jesus Christ while recruiting

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[deathangelgw]

*stares as shakes head* wow...however, considering that my brother had been considering being a chaplain, I'm actually kinda glad they loosened up. We in the Catholic Church had to deal with so much....butt kissing to the smaller religions in the Christian faith that we lost the basis of our religion somewhat. So, sorry to say, but I'm glad they did change it. However, I think they are misinterpreting things just a tad here. Kinda like those jackasses that are going around the country to military funerals and protesting, stating that because we allow gays into the military that God is killing our boys off.

....yea, sure they are you morons. God...even my FATHER who is a rather strong Catholic is incensed with their prejudice and stupidity! wow...anyhoo, whoa where did that all come from?? *snickers*

[erestor]

We in the Catholic Church had to deal with so much....butt kissing to the smaller religions in the Christian faith that we lost the basis of our religion somewhat.

Well, I'd say that the basis of Christian faith should be following the teachings of Christ. And as far as I know, Jesus never mentioned the Air Force.

[deathangelgw]

no kidding, even though he came in a time where the Roman military was a strong force to deal with along with the religious sycophants. I think it's a matter of looking at when and where certain things were established. Back then, the Constitution was established by men who were Christians. And chauvinistic, moralistic, bible thumping men at that. I think what needs to happen is that, instead of quoting things that no longer apply (like the 'Right to Bear Arms' amendment) is that they should be adjusted for the times. *sighs and shakes head* but that won't be happening for a while. :P

[megselv]

Ah! If I practice some cult that requires me to sprinkle random bystanders with Yak urine while chanting to them until they are in a trance so they may join me in knowing The Only Truth? Stopping me would be Oppression, yes?

(made own post so as not to spam, btw.)

[erestor]

My cult requires me to sprinkle random bystanders with Yak urine, too. Come on, let's join the Air Force!

[megselv]

Yes! I've never considered this, but the whole airborne thing could make the sprinkling a lot easier, you know.

[erestor]

Oh yessss... a bit like fire-fighting from the air, only without fire and without water! I like that idea! I just fear that we will not get enough yak-urine-supplies.

But then I live in Switzerland, we have a lot of cows...

[erestor]

Ich erklärs auf Deutsch, mir fehlt der Wortschatz. Hat übrigens (so viel ich weiss) nix mit Katholizismus zu tun. Es gehört zu den Regeln gewisser christlichen Vereinigungen (Evangelisten) in den USA, Ungläubige zu bekehren und sich selber bei jeder passenden und unpassenden Gelegenheit als gläubig zu "outen". Ganz grob gesagt: was Jehovas Zeugen oder die Mormonen in den Einkaufszonen machen, ist "witnessing". In den USA werden ganz besonders auch Teenager dazu angehalten, zBsp. "irregeleitete" schwule Mitschüler zu bekehren usw

[erestor]

Das Üble ist wirklich, dass jeder Protest gegen diesen Witnessing-Unfug gleich als "Christenverfolgung" ausgelegt wird. Ich habe echt kein Problem damit (im Gegenteil!) wenn Leute zu ihrem Glauben stehen (oder überhaupt einen haben!), und ich diskutiere auch gerne darüber. Aber ich erwarte, dass der Respekt, den ich bereit bin zu geben, mir auch gezollt wird. Da werden echt Teenager in der Kirche dazu ermutigt, schwulen Mitschülern (oder generell Mitschülern, die eine andere Meinung haben) aufzulauern und sie zu verfolgen. Üble Sache, und jedes mal, wenn versucht wird, da Einhalt zu gebieten, kommt gleich die "OMG wir werden unterdrückt!" Märtyrer Masche.

Ganz davon abgesehen finde ich es geschmacklos im höchsten Grad, Jesus für Air Force Rekrutierungen einzuspannen. Und das sage ich als Nicht-Christ. Mehr kann man den Glauben ja wohl gar nicht mit Füssen treten.

[zenjunkiewitch]

Thats it! They have lost it. Comunes are in order. Comunes of sane, respectful people. The military is all too churchy and worried about churchy matters.

[erestor]

I find it interesting how conveniently they forget the thing about "thou shalt not kill". As if the ten commandments were some sort of self-service supermarket, where you only pick the ones you like. >:( If I was Christian, I'd be more than insulted.

[sinneahtes]

Good gravy. Whatever the Bible says, my interpretations of history and of current events tells me that religion and military should only mix on a decently quiet and personal level.

They said the rules violated constitutional guarantees of free exercise of religion and discriminated against evangelicals, who consider spreading their faith a requirement of Christianity.

This makes me think of the Borg, to be honest...

[erestor]

"We are Borg. You must be evangelised. Resistance is futile."

Scaaaary.