I still don't like the bit at the end where Clara doesn't tell the adult Doctor where they are and orders him not to try to find out (and I don't know why I have more trouble with this than with “You have to do this, and you can't ask why.” / “My life in your hands, Amelia Pond”, but I do), but you make me accept the Doctor not being intrinsically the Doctor without the Companions and the Monsters. The show was there, but without your meta I was resisting it. You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it. Thank you very much for sharing.
So beautiful. Thank you. Thank the show. It's just... gorgeous.
I still don't like the bit at the end where Clara doesn't tell the adult Doctor where they are and orders him not to try to find out (and I don't know why I have more trouble with this than with “You have to do this, and you can't ask why.” / “My life in your hands, Amelia Pond”, but I do) I think that's perfectly logical. You shouldn't know stuff like that. Much like Clara doesn't want to know how long she'll live - except the other way around. Something that formative, so old... It should be left well alone.
but you make me accept the Doctor not being intrinsically the Doctor without the Companions and the Monsters. It is FASCINATING watching the old show. You can see the bones of what it will become, but it's not there yet. It develops and grows before your eyes.
The show was there, but without your meta I was resisting it. You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it. Thank you very
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It is FASCINATING watching the old show. You can see the bones of what it will become, but it's not there yet. It develops and grows before your eyes. ♥♥♥ This so much; this sentence is so true it makes me want to hug you, the classics, and the universe.
You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it. Absolutely true and I forgot to say it in my own comment because I'm an idiot. XD You always shed some light on things, show the complexity and how it all falls together, and from what I can see in the comments it's a blessing for quite a few of us. ;) Thank you for that.
♥♥♥ This so much; this sentence is so true it makes me want to hug you, the classics, and the universe. ♥♥♥ I can see the Doctor becoming the Doctor before my very eyes...
Absolutely true and I forgot to say it in my own comment because I'm an idiot. XD Pft. I practically kissed the screen the day LJ gave us an edit button!
You always shed some light on things, show the complexity and how it all falls together, and from what I can see in the comments it's a blessing for quite a few of us. ;) Thank you for that. Awww. Thank you for reading and replying.
As I wrote in another comment, I find the final monologue so perfect and I instantly loved it.
As a person who lives with anxiety and a part-time babysitter, I think it's really important to tell children that fear is a thing, that everyone is afraid and that you have to learn how to accept and manage it (Not becoming an angry mob, but understanding the fear in the other and holding his hand) This episode spoke to me and I really love that Clara (the teacher) told the Doctor such important lesson.
As I wrote in another comment, I find the final monologue so perfect and I instantly loved it. Same here. <3
As a person who lives with anxiety and a part-time babysitter, I think it's really important to tell children that fear is a thing, that everyone is afraid and that you have to learn how to accept and manage it (Not becoming an angry mob, but understanding the fear in the other and holding his hand) *nods a lot*
This episode spoke to me and I really love that Clara (the teacher) told the Doctor such important lesson. It's just beautiful and wonderful in every way.
As it happens, I dealt with this in a previous post. I shall copy & paste the relevant part, and then expand on my point.
Doctor Who (the character, the story of the show, as opposed to the show itself) is England/Britain (post-Empire), trying to come to terms with where we're at now. This is not deliberate, I don’t think, but the story of Britain in the past 50 years is clearly reflected in the show. Gallifrey was known as the Shining World of the Seven Systems, and at the peak of its power, it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire", because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories. But the glory days of Gallifrey were over by the time the Doctor ran away; the Time Lords a bunch of daft old geezers in silly hats arguing amongst themselves. Until the re-booted show when they (and their once great empire) was gone for good - and the Doctor was left alone, trying to work out who and what he was now
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Yes. This is why I read all the comments in threads built on your meta.
(And Tennyson; it hits me in a certain spot. It also amuses me, sort of sadly, that Jacob Clifton, a writer I respect and who loved RTD's Who, but who retreated in a great deal of anger from Moffat's Who, more's the pity, used Tennyson as a touchstone for his examination of Nine and Ten's journey. (
Yes. This is why I read all the comments in threads built on your meta. The comments often bring out all the extra bits that I couldn't fit in... (Promethia and I have a whole conversation going about how the Doctor was raised 'Space British'.)
And Tennyson; it hits me in a certain spot. It was at that point I fell completely in love with Skyfall. Just - no going back.
It also amuses me, sort of sadly, that Jacob Clifton, a writer I respect and who loved RTD's Who, but who retreated in a great deal of anger from Moffat's Who, more's the pity, used Tennyson as a touchstone for his examination of Nine and Ten's journey. I don't understand that sort of reaction. Well, I despise the Buffy comics because they are pretty much misogynistic, and Miracle Day was atrocious, but if there was more Torchwood I'd probably still watch...
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I still don't like the bit at the end where Clara doesn't tell the adult Doctor where they are and orders him not to try to find out (and I don't know why I have more trouble with this than with “You have to do this, and you can't ask why.” / “My life in your hands, Amelia Pond”, but I do), but you make me accept the Doctor not being intrinsically the Doctor without the Companions and the Monsters. The show was there, but without your meta I was resisting it. You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it. Thank you very much for sharing.
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Thank the show. It's just... gorgeous.
I still don't like the bit at the end where Clara doesn't tell the adult Doctor where they are and orders him not to try to find out (and I don't know why I have more trouble with this than with “You have to do this, and you can't ask why.” / “My life in your hands, Amelia Pond”, but I do)
I think that's perfectly logical. You shouldn't know stuff like that. Much like Clara doesn't want to know how long she'll live - except the other way around. Something that formative, so old... It should be left well alone.
but you make me accept the Doctor not being intrinsically the Doctor without the Companions and the Monsters.
It is FASCINATING watching the old show. You can see the bones of what it will become, but it's not there yet. It develops and grows before your eyes.
The show was there, but without your meta I was resisting it. You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it. Thank you very ( ... )
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It is FASCINATING watching the old show. You can see the bones of what it will become, but it's not there yet. It develops and grows before your eyes.
♥♥♥ This so much; this sentence is so true it makes me want to hug you, the classics, and the universe.
You continue to justify the ways of the show in a way that makes what seems arbitrary inevitable once you have explained it.
Absolutely true and I forgot to say it in my own comment because I'm an idiot. XD You always shed some light on things, show the complexity and how it all falls together, and from what I can see in the comments it's a blessing for quite a few of us. ;) Thank you for that.
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♥♥♥ I can see the Doctor becoming the Doctor before my very eyes...
Absolutely true and I forgot to say it in my own comment because I'm an idiot. XD
Pft. I practically kissed the screen the day LJ gave us an edit button!
You always shed some light on things, show the complexity and how it all falls together, and from what I can see in the comments it's a blessing for quite a few of us. ;) Thank you for that.
Awww. Thank you for reading and replying.
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As a person who lives with anxiety and a part-time babysitter, I think it's really important to tell children that fear is a thing, that everyone is afraid and that you have to learn how to accept and manage it (Not becoming an angry mob, but understanding the fear in the other and holding his hand) This episode spoke to me and I really love that Clara (the teacher) told the Doctor such important lesson.
Great meta!
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Same here. <3
As a person who lives with anxiety and a part-time babysitter, I think it's really important to tell children that fear is a thing, that everyone is afraid and that you have to learn how to accept and manage it (Not becoming an angry mob, but understanding the fear in the other and holding his hand)
*nods a lot*
This episode spoke to me and I really love that Clara (the teacher) told the Doctor such important lesson.
It's just beautiful and wonderful in every way.
Great meta!
Thank you!!!
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Doctor Who (the character, the story of the show, as opposed to the show itself) is England/Britain (post-Empire), trying to come to terms with where we're at now. This is not deliberate, I don’t think, but the story of Britain in the past 50 years is clearly reflected in the show. Gallifrey was known as the Shining World of the Seven Systems, and at the peak of its power, it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire", because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories. But the glory days of Gallifrey were over by the time the Doctor ran away; the Time Lords a bunch of daft old geezers in silly hats arguing amongst themselves. Until the re-booted show when they (and their once great empire) was gone for good - and the Doctor was left alone, trying to work out who and what he was now ( ... )
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(And Tennyson; it hits me in a certain spot. It also amuses me, sort of sadly, that Jacob Clifton, a writer I respect and who loved RTD's Who, but who retreated in a great deal of anger from Moffat's Who, more's the pity, used Tennyson as a touchstone for his examination of Nine and Ten's journey. (
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The comments often bring out all the extra bits that I couldn't fit in... (Promethia and I have a whole conversation going about how the Doctor was raised 'Space British'.)
And Tennyson; it hits me in a certain spot.
It was at that point I fell completely in love with Skyfall. Just - no going back.
It also amuses me, sort of sadly, that Jacob Clifton, a writer I respect and who loved RTD's Who, but who retreated in a great deal of anger from Moffat's Who, more's the pity, used Tennyson as a touchstone for his examination of Nine and Ten's journey.
I don't understand that sort of reaction. Well, I despise the Buffy comics because they are pretty much misogynistic, and Miracle Day was atrocious, but if there was more Torchwood I'd probably still watch...
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