THE 1st COMMENTelanor_xOctober 13 2010, 22:21:47 UTC
I would've been so sad the fire consumed everything from the Room of Hidden Things, as Draco called it. It was like a paradise - all books and toys you could wish for, with the bonus joy of discovery. The closest RL experience I had was at the library sale.
Conveniently, the cursed fire doesn't spread into the rest of the castle, like usual fire would in RL. Even if you wish to get rid of all rubbish in your attic, kids, don't try it at home. Unless you want to watch it burn to the ground, of course.
As the diadem breaks apart in Harry's arms, the DEs penetrate Hogwarts and Percy with Fred, who protected the passage, are the first in the line of fire.
On the 1st hurried read I wasn't touched by Fred's death, but now… Fred's last words are very moving, even for some fans, who didn't like the Twins, imo: “You actually are joking, Perce…I don’t think I’ve heard you joke since you were -” What the last words would be? 6? 12? On the family vacation to Egypt after CoS?
Re: THE 1st COMMENTsunnyskywalkerOctober 14 2010, 17:31:30 UTC
There were probably all manner of amazing, centuries-old treasures in there, including rare books someone didn't even want in the Restricted Section. Plus the Prince's book, of course, which had original magical research in it; just the improved versions of the potions they make in class would be a great benefit to wizarding education and welfare. It's a huge tragedy
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Re: THE 1st COMMENTkarentheunicornOctober 14 2010, 23:34:04 UTC
/As for Hermione, they wanted to show her room, parents & their house. I think we'll see them agreeing to the modification after talking to her and it'll be presented as tragic, but needed, decision./
One wonders if they picked up on some fans complaint that it seems pretty crappy if she did it to her parents without telling them. So maybe the movie is giving it more play than was ever given in the book.
I can't remember exactly how it went but always got the impression from the book that it was Hermione doing the spell wihtout her parents knowing anything. I never got the impression she told them what she was going to do to them or about the issues with Voldemort.
Who knows, maybe JKR has taken some looks at fan speculation or movie people got a wiff of the debates that have happened and are trying to give a better impression that was given in the book.
Dirty Stealin' cheatin' RavenclawskarentheunicornOctober 14 2010, 19:13:39 UTC
Okay so I like Ravenclaw...I actually put one of my main fanfic characters in Ravenclaw but still I want to comment on more in the post but the first thing I'm thinking about is; Rowena Ravenclaw had this diadem that made the wearer 'smarter
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Re: Dirty Stealin' cheatin' Ravenclawselanor_xOctober 14 2010, 20:10:04 UTC
Was Rowena really smart or did the magical object make her smart?
I choose to take the hopeful view that RR created the diadem after becoming a woman of great renown due to her intelligence. Besides, discovering how to enchant the diadem to enhance wisdom is all proof of her smartness one could want. We haven't heard about any unique abilities of other founders' relics, except for The Sorting Hat they created together. F.e. GG's sword wasn't different from any other goblin-made weapons.
I don't know if I want to get into cheating but she's using a device that bumps her IQ - apparently taking a daily vitamin just isn't good enough for a Ravenclaw.
There is a saying "the more you know, the more you understand you don't know" and this experience can be incredibly humbling. Exactly because of being intelligent & scientifically curious, RR understood her brain's limitations better than most people and searched for ways of improvement. I don't see it as cheating since she enchanted the diadem herself. She can be closer compared to Snape
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Re: Dirty Stealin' cheatin' RavenclawskarentheunicornOctober 15 2010, 00:11:31 UTC
/I choose to take the hopeful view that RR created the diadem after becoming a woman of great renown due to her intelligence. Besides, discovering how to enchant the diadem to enhance wisdom is all proof of her smartness one could want. We haven't heard about any unique abilities of other founders' relics, except for The Sorting Hat they created together. F.e. GG's sword wasn't different from any other goblin-made weapons. /
Hufflepuff had a magic shovel!!
Slytherin...hum...Oh I know. Magical Snake Repellant. To bad all the previous Slytherin Heads of House used all the repellant up and didn't leave a drop, which left Severus with NONE! DOH!
Re: Dirty Stealin' cheatin' Ravenclawssharaz_jekOctober 15 2010, 09:36:03 UTC
I think Helga's cup could produce an unending supply of food or drink (so much for Gamps Third Law of Elemental Transmutation), leaving Gryffindor's Sword and Slytherin's locket with no known magical properties whatsoever. One can draw a parallel between the usefulness of a founder's relic and how obsessed with petty feuds their houses become.
/Don't know about Helena's (too?) high standards, but she was 100% right to refuse the Baron. A hot-tempered man, who will stab you because of being "furious at my refusal, jealous of my freedom"? No, thanks
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What the heck was Rowena thinking when she told the Bloody Baron about her? She thought Baron's character would be useful, when she needed somebody persistent, ready to go far (in both senses) to find her daughter and persuade her to return. Her mistake was misjudging how far Baron would go.
I don't think somebody asked the ghosts about V's identity in the first place. Besides, DD could ask them to be silent for whatever reason he was so.
it was odd that we never heard Crabbe and Goyle actually speak until this point 7 years of silence were the build-up to this scene in RoR. ;)
I don't think you're biased about Draco. It's canon - his half-hearted attempts to murder DD and the horror on the Tower in HBP, refusing to identify Harry in DH and the current behavior all point in one direction. Why would Draco care more than Crabbe what V would think of Crabbe's behavior?
Let's not forget Draco's protection of Neville and the others. He knew how the DA communicated and where they were likely hiding - he could have 'sold' them to the Carrows in hope of restoring his position with Voldemort, but instead maintained silence that could have cost him dearly.
How Crabbe learned Fiendfyreterri_testingOctober 16 2010, 07:09:04 UTC
Sorry, I don't have a link, but there's a great fanfic out there (I think on Occlumency).
Seems Crabbe dissed Mudbloods in general, and Potter's Mudblood mum in particular, in front of the new headmaster. Who responded by offering to teach Crabbe this really nifty offensive spell, which should only be cast in closed quarters where it could be confined....
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A minor point, but the word "baron" didn't enter English until c. 1200, while the Bloody Baron lived in the 10th century or thereabouts. It's possible that he was called by the earlier words "beorn" (nobleman) or "baro" (freeman), or that it's a later nickname, but it's still silly. Also, his dress in the films is centuries off, as is Helena's - they may as well be dressed as a Teddy boy and a flapper.
/A minor point, but the word "baron" didn't enter English until c. 1200, while the Bloody Baron lived in the 10th century or thereabouts. It's possible that he was called by the earlier words "beorn" (nobleman) or "baro" (freeman), or that it's a later nickname, but it's still silly. Also, his dress in the films is centuries off, as is Helena's - they may as well be dressed as a Teddy boy and a flapper./
Yea, I wondered about the outfits, they looked like they belonged to a more modern timeframe. The outfit the baron is wearing, he was way ahead of his time! He looks like he should be some nobleman during the French Revolution that got his head cut off.
Time-turners. It's the only possible explanation. Which would explain a lot about the setting, actually.
Rowena: Do we have to enchant the stairs to inconvenience everyone? Godric: Of course! Otherwise there'll be a temporal paradox and we'll blow a hole in the universe the size of Belgium! Salazar (under his breath): I told you we shouldn't have talked to the weirdo in the bizarre clothes but does anyone listen to me? Now I have to build a giant statue of myself and stick a snake inside it? It's unpredictable but hardly cunning.
"Yea, I wondered about the outfits, they looked like they belonged to a more modern timeframe. The outfit the baron is wearing, he was way ahead of his time! He looks like he should be some nobleman during the French Revolution that got his head cut off."
To be fair, I don't think the ghosts' ages had been revealed when the films came out. There was nothing in the books, IIRC, to suggest that the Baron was from the tenth century.
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Conveniently, the cursed fire doesn't spread into the rest of the castle, like usual fire would in RL. Even if you wish to get rid of all rubbish in your attic, kids, don't try it at home. Unless you want to watch it burn to the ground, of course.
As the diadem breaks apart in Harry's arms, the DEs penetrate Hogwarts and Percy with Fred, who protected the passage, are the first in the line of fire.
On the 1st hurried read I wasn't touched by Fred's death, but now…
Fred's last words are very moving, even for some fans, who didn't like the Twins, imo: “You actually are joking, Perce…I don’t think I’ve heard you joke since you were -” What the last words would be? 6? 12? On the family vacation to Egypt after CoS?
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One wonders if they picked up on some fans complaint that it seems pretty crappy if she did it to her parents without telling them. So maybe the movie is giving it more play than was ever given in the book.
I can't remember exactly how it went but always got the impression from the book that it was Hermione doing the spell wihtout her parents knowing anything. I never got the impression she told them what she was going to do to them or about the issues with Voldemort.
Who knows, maybe JKR has taken some looks at fan speculation or movie people got a wiff of the debates that have happened and are trying to give a better impression that was given in the book.
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I choose to take the hopeful view that RR created the diadem after becoming a woman of great renown due to her intelligence. Besides, discovering how to enchant the diadem to enhance wisdom is all proof of her smartness one could want. We haven't heard about any unique abilities of other founders' relics, except for The Sorting Hat they created together. F.e. GG's sword wasn't different from any other goblin-made weapons.
I don't know if I want to get into cheating but she's using a device that bumps her IQ - apparently taking a daily vitamin just isn't good enough for a Ravenclaw.
There is a saying "the more you know, the more you understand you don't know" and this experience can be incredibly humbling. Exactly because of being intelligent & scientifically curious, RR understood her brain's limitations better than most people and searched for ways of improvement. I don't see it as cheating since she enchanted the diadem herself. She can be closer compared to Snape ( ... )
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Hufflepuff had a magic shovel!!
Slytherin...hum...Oh I know. Magical Snake Repellant. To bad all the previous Slytherin Heads of House used all the repellant up and didn't leave a drop, which left Severus with NONE! DOH!
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She thought Baron's character would be useful, when she needed somebody persistent, ready to go far (in both senses) to find her daughter and persuade her to return. Her mistake was misjudging how far Baron would go.
I don't think somebody asked the ghosts about V's identity in the first place. Besides, DD could ask them to be silent for whatever reason he was so.
it was odd that we never heard Crabbe and Goyle actually speak until this point
7 years of silence were the build-up to this scene in RoR. ;)
I don't think you're biased about Draco. It's canon - his half-hearted attempts to murder DD and the horror on the Tower in HBP, refusing to identify Harry in DH and the current behavior all point in one direction. Why would Draco care more than Crabbe what V would think of Crabbe's behavior?
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Seems Crabbe dissed Mudbloods in general, and Potter's Mudblood mum in particular, in front of the new headmaster. Who responded by offering to teach Crabbe this really nifty offensive spell, which should only be cast in closed quarters where it could be confined....
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Explore the heritage of a country influenced by the Greeks, Romans, Italians and Turks.
Come - discover the magical side of Albania for yourself!
(okay so I wrote that with help from the Albania tourist website *evil grin*)
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Yea, I wondered about the outfits, they looked like they belonged to a more modern timeframe. The outfit the baron is wearing, he was way ahead of his time! He looks like he should be some nobleman during the French Revolution that got his head cut off.
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Rowena: Do we have to enchant the stairs to inconvenience everyone?
Godric: Of course! Otherwise there'll be a temporal paradox and we'll blow a hole in the universe the size of Belgium!
Salazar (under his breath): I told you we shouldn't have talked to the weirdo in the bizarre clothes but does anyone listen to me? Now I have to build a giant statue of myself and stick a snake inside it? It's unpredictable but hardly cunning.
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To be fair, I don't think the ghosts' ages had been revealed when the films came out. There was nothing in the books, IIRC, to suggest that the Baron was from the tenth century.
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