THE 1st COMMENTelanor_xOctober 13 2010, 22:21:47 UTC
I would've been so sad the fire consumed everything from the Room of Hidden Things, as Draco called it. It was like a paradise - all books and toys you could wish for, with the bonus joy of discovery. The closest RL experience I had was at the library sale.
Conveniently, the cursed fire doesn't spread into the rest of the castle, like usual fire would in RL. Even if you wish to get rid of all rubbish in your attic, kids, don't try it at home. Unless you want to watch it burn to the ground, of course.
As the diadem breaks apart in Harry's arms, the DEs penetrate Hogwarts and Percy with Fred, who protected the passage, are the first in the line of fire.
On the 1st hurried read I wasn't touched by Fred's death, but now… Fred's last words are very moving, even for some fans, who didn't like the Twins, imo: “You actually are joking, Perce…I don’t think I’ve heard you joke since you were -” What the last words would be? 6? 12? On the family vacation to Egypt after CoS?
Re: THE 1st COMMENTsunnyskywalkerOctober 14 2010, 17:31:30 UTC
There were probably all manner of amazing, centuries-old treasures in there, including rare books someone didn't even want in the Restricted Section. Plus the Prince's book, of course, which had original magical research in it; just the improved versions of the potions they make in class would be a great benefit to wizarding education and welfare. It's a huge tragedy
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Re: THE 1st COMMENTkarentheunicornOctober 14 2010, 23:34:04 UTC
/As for Hermione, they wanted to show her room, parents & their house. I think we'll see them agreeing to the modification after talking to her and it'll be presented as tragic, but needed, decision./
One wonders if they picked up on some fans complaint that it seems pretty crappy if she did it to her parents without telling them. So maybe the movie is giving it more play than was ever given in the book.
I can't remember exactly how it went but always got the impression from the book that it was Hermione doing the spell wihtout her parents knowing anything. I never got the impression she told them what she was going to do to them or about the issues with Voldemort.
Who knows, maybe JKR has taken some looks at fan speculation or movie people got a wiff of the debates that have happened and are trying to give a better impression that was given in the book.
Re: THE 1st COMMENTelanor_xOctober 14 2010, 19:22:55 UTC
One of the reasons for DH! Harry's passivity could be that JKR knew he would get entire chapter of heroically going to death and searched for the way to give other characters chance to shine too. Had Harry gone with Ron & Hr, Ron wouldn't be the one to open the chamber
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Re: THE 1st COMMENTsunnyskywalkerOctober 14 2010, 20:59:22 UTC
On the other hand, we also have seen that when he does act, Harry is impulsive, especially when he thinks he's the only one who can save someone. He's also had a few moments of wanting to die to be with all his dead relatives and Sirius - brief, granted, and in times of great stress, but isn't this one of those times? She could have played it so that Dumbledore and Snape's conversation didn't give a solution, and Harry impulsively decided to pass the snake-killing duty off to any of the many capable people around and nobly sacrifice himself to get rid of the last Horcrux, because he couldn't see how they would ever figure out how to dispose of it otherwise (I mean, this is Harry after all). It fits well enough with Harry's previous characterization and doesn't require total passivity! Which makes me think that you're right that the real reason is that JKR is using Harry as a device to help us listen in on whatever information she wants to give us at the moment, not as a convincing character. Although as others have pointed out, given
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Re: THE 1st COMMENTsunnyskywalkerOctober 16 2010, 15:52:51 UTC
So it is just a convenient coincidence? Was Peter just waiting for someone he knew to wander through? Did he have a list of old schoolmates with Albanian relatives who might visit, and lurked near their homes?
Re: THE 1st COMMENToryx_leucoryxOctober 16 2010, 20:04:20 UTC
According to Voldemort Peter ran into her at an inn just outside the forest. Peter just stopped for some food. I doubt this version because as a rat he could easily find as much food as he would want.
Re: THE 1st COMMENTsunnyskywalkerOctober 17 2010, 16:05:07 UTC
Yeah, that sounds pretty unlikely. I'm going to go with at least semi-intentional lurking and stalking (as in, he was at the very least looking for a Brit who might know something useful to take as an offering).
Re: THE 1st COMMENTseductivedarkOctober 15 2010, 21:30:06 UTC
Crabbe is surprisingly magically talented! It adds another perspective to Draco keeping him as a bodyguard all those years - it isn't just about having someone to boss around or a bit of muscle, but having a secret weapon everyone underestimates.
Sort-of like Peter Pettigrew, the kid who didn't shine as brightly as his cohort in crime but who still, nonetheless, managed an Animagus transfiguration by fifth year, spied in rat form, saved his own bacon by going into hiding in plain sight as the pet of a Hogwarts-bound kid. Wonder what all he might have picked up wandering the halls in complete safety as a rat all those years, ever since Percy was a firstie. And Crabbe, like Pettigrew, turned his back on his friends in the end and got what was coming.
Re: THE 1st COMMENTseductivedarkOctober 16 2010, 09:57:55 UTC
Meh. I forgot about Mrs Norris and the owls. I was thinking more about the curfew and detention.
I'm not sure being a study maven is a good thing in the Potterverse. Hermione studies but Harry and Ron both blow off the classes they don't like. Ron even gets a line that shows he doesn't think he or Harry need to listen in Potions so Crabbe isn't alone in only attending to what he likes.
Conveniently, the cursed fire doesn't spread into the rest of the castle, like usual fire would in RL. Even if you wish to get rid of all rubbish in your attic, kids, don't try it at home. Unless you want to watch it burn to the ground, of course.
As the diadem breaks apart in Harry's arms, the DEs penetrate Hogwarts and Percy with Fred, who protected the passage, are the first in the line of fire.
On the 1st hurried read I wasn't touched by Fred's death, but now…
Fred's last words are very moving, even for some fans, who didn't like the Twins, imo: “You actually are joking, Perce…I don’t think I’ve heard you joke since you were -” What the last words would be? 6? 12? On the family vacation to Egypt after CoS?
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One wonders if they picked up on some fans complaint that it seems pretty crappy if she did it to her parents without telling them. So maybe the movie is giving it more play than was ever given in the book.
I can't remember exactly how it went but always got the impression from the book that it was Hermione doing the spell wihtout her parents knowing anything. I never got the impression she told them what she was going to do to them or about the issues with Voldemort.
Who knows, maybe JKR has taken some looks at fan speculation or movie people got a wiff of the debates that have happened and are trying to give a better impression that was given in the book.
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Sort-of like Peter Pettigrew, the kid who didn't shine as brightly as his cohort in crime but who still, nonetheless, managed an Animagus transfiguration by fifth year, spied in rat form, saved his own bacon by going into hiding in plain sight as the pet of a Hogwarts-bound kid. Wonder what all he might have picked up wandering the halls in complete safety as a rat all those years, ever since Percy was a firstie. And Crabbe, like Pettigrew, turned his back on his friends in the end and got what was coming.
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Not safely at all. The corridors of Hogwarts are constantly monitored by a cat, and there are owls flying through the castle every day.
I think Crabbe simply didn't care about formal learning and grades, but practical learning in areas that appealed to him he picked up nicely.
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I'm not sure being a study maven is a good thing in the Potterverse. Hermione studies but Harry and Ron both blow off the classes they don't like. Ron even gets a line that shows he doesn't think he or Harry need to listen in Potions so Crabbe isn't alone in only attending to what he likes.
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