Oh go fuck yourself, Joe O'Connor.

[dzuunmod]

Indeed, there are more finite calculations involved: Career demands. Timing. Not having a partner, or not having the right partner. Flaky fears about overburdening our already overburdened planet, personal choice and a bunch of other hooey that serve to hide the fact that happy couples that choose not to have kids are, at root, well, let’s see:

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[wendykh]

I don't get why people who think childfree by choice people are selfish act like that's a bad thing. I mean... aren't those the people who SHOULDN'T have kids??? Are they under the impression having kids will suddenly make them *not selfish*? Because I can hand a list of names of people who are selfish as all fuck who didn't get one lick better once they did have kids. Some got even worse in fact.

So if you think people who don't want kids are selfish... and??? the problem with that IS????

I admit there's a certain *type* of childfree by choice woman in her early 30s to late 40s I just cannot stand but it's not her lack of children that makes her so unbearable. The lack of children is simply a symptom of her [attributes I dislike].

[wendykh]

Also, the description of the childfree people makes childfree life sound totally appealing. And like kids are an excuse for being haggard. Kids don't always make one haggard, but a loss of joie de vivre sure does

[dzuunmod]

Re: your last secret I always felt that way too! Like, all it takes is a straight-up comparison to another underappreciated, taken-for-granted, important job: teacher.

What's more difficult, watching the 1 or 5 kid(s) that you've raised yourself (and thus had the opportunity to impart on them your values, beliefs, etc) everyday, or watching 30 kids from all walks of life everyday, and trying to get them to learn?

I don't say that to denigrate stay-at-home-moms, and I realize that teachers to varying extents are able to punch the clock (although I'll tell you now that any teacher who lives in a community in the Yukon outside of Whitehorse - whether it's college, high school or elementary takes ALL KINDS of requests after hours), but it's not as difficult as teaching. Or nursing. Or any number of other jobs.

[wendykh]

Yeah. I think a lot of women mean they don't like childcare/housework when they say that. Which is perfectly fine. But I didn't like working at Burger King either. That doesn't mean it was the "hardest job in the world." I got into this HUGE ass fight with this woman one time who had one (1) child who was NOT special needs, age four (4) and she stayed home with him for six months and her house was a disaster and he destroyed lots ofpersonal property... red marker on white couches type stuff. I'm like wtf were you doing all day? She insis this was harder than her 70+ hour work weeks in finance. I'm like bitch please you just don'tlike doing it. If she REALLY thinks it's so hard why is she hiring a unilingual mexican nanny for peanuts under the table and working her like a dog?

[sooguy]

I used to have problems reconciling the children-less couples in my life, but I've learnt to accept it.

I think for me the problem was that some I knew were clueless what it took to be a parent and couldn't accept or understand that you were no longer free to go out to bars until whatever hour and that you now had committments. Or worse some would rub your face almost taunting you that it sucks to be a parent - look at the fabulous lifestyle you are missing out on.

I realized it had nothing to do with them being childless - it had to do with them being ASSHOLES.

Life is too short to worry about someone else's choices. I have two wonderful children and wouldn't change it for the world. I always knew I wanted to be a father. It may not be for everyone. That's okay by me.

[dzuunmod]

Ha! Can't disagree with any of this.

[bee_york]

What an epic, epic asshole. Anyone who judges people based on their decision to have or not have kids is a piece of garbage. End of story.

SO digusted at this idiot and anyone who agrees with him. Just....ewww. EW. Get off my planet please.

[bee_york]

Also, what you said here:

Mmmhmm. And you know what you and Ann Landers are, Joe O'Connor? Jealous. Stop turning regrets you have about your own life into newspaper columns.

THIS. This x 1000000. The *only* people who judge and hate on others, instead of minding their own business, are people who are unfullfilled and unsatisfied with something about themselves. I guess there's the silver lining? That they can't stand seeing us child-less couples be so happy with our life choices? That they're trying to compensate for some regret or resentment they have deep down? I dunno, I personally find a bit of solace in that, I think. ;)

[dzuunmod]

Haha - I was not surprised to see that you were one of the people to respond to this...

That they're trying to compensate for some regret or resentment they have deep down? I dunno, I personally find a bit of solace in that, I think. ;)

The best revenge is living well, babe, so fuck 'em! (Actually no, of course don't do that. :p)

[bee_york]

The best revenge is living well, babe, so fuck 'em! (Actually no, of course don't do that. :p)

Ahahaha! Best response everrrr. <3 Rock on! \m/

[wendykh]

Honestly I think they're pissed they didn't have the balls to "fuck society." You know, like the closeted gays who rip on the out ones? mmm hmmm. And those people piss me off so bad because society doesn't make anyone do jack shit. Lack of appropriate birth control and not taking responsibility for YOUR choices (including choosing not to abort, or place for adoption after -AT ANY POINT) does.

Also I am really appalled how many people I know having risky sex (affairs for example) are not using any kind of birth control whatsoever just ya know assuming all will be fine and they won't get knocked up I'm like wtf are you 15? Men north of 35-40 I know seem to be particularly bad at this. I suspect because they've spent most of their sex lives with women on the pill. Seriously I can hardly think of one man I know north of 40 who does anything other than "are you on the pill?" and seeing if she nods before sticking his dick in her. God.

[pinkealing]

What the hell?? This is seriously one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

“See what the years have done. He looks boyish, unlined and rested. She is slim, well-groomed and youthful. It isn’t natural. If they had kids, they’d look like the rest of us - tired, gray, wrinkled and haggard.

Right. Because being well groomed and youthful in appearance is so unnatural.

[dzuunmod]

He has a strange way of looking at the world, this fellow.

[bee_york]

Agreed!

[bee_york]

Right. Because being well groomed and youthful in appearance is so unnatural. ---FOR REAL! What the hell. How dare someone look rested. Totally unnatural. Suuuure.

Worst article I've read in a loooong time!