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celerest

Pissy Rant and Lovely Photo

Feb 02, 2006 02:26

I have a rant. This rant is about an LJ community, or rather my experiences within said community. As such, it is behind a cut. If you look at it, I do not expect you to argue with me here. I really am too mad for words and anyone trying to tell me that I am wrong on my own turf will not be handled with care. You have been warned.

( AS is no excuse for being haughty )

pissy, photography, ideas, rant, aspergers, community

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melsmarsh February 2 2006, 03:54:24 UTC

1) I agree... the people over in asperger are insane and the mods don't particularly help and a lot of times the mods actively provoke people (except for lordalfredhenry who is the only sane one there). They claim I am not banned (I do have a strike against me) but I still can't comment.

2) I like science and nature pictures. Cool pictures of trees? Do you have access to a microscope that you can use a camera on?

celerest February 2 2006, 03:57:52 UTC

Hehe - I didn't say the name of the community just to stop anyone getting huffy with me, but yeah - that is the nutters I was talking about.

They banned you? What ever did you do? I bet I would be amused, whatever it is. *sighs*

I could try and get hold of a micro-scope. It depends on how well my old Bio lecturers will remember me... its been a few years but I am still in the faculty, sort of. I will see what I can do. If not a micropscope, I shall try and get some tree themed shots for you - thanks!

melsmarsh February 2 2006, 04:33:10 UTC

You will think its amusing ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 04:40:25 UTC

That was amusing - thankyou for sharing.

I did not realise that the ethics deal was so much hassle for you. I have had to do small time ethics submissions for individual anthropology projects - well, any which involved live subjects - but none were as intensive or hard work as the ones you are talking about. All they came to in the end was perhaps 4 A4 pages of 14pt text and a few signatures.

I love that you legaly cannot say some things - that makes you awesome :) Seriously. So, can you say the last part, about them needing medicated? hehe.

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moggymania February 2 2006, 03:57:43 UTC

I agree with you that if you need people to pretend they are NT, and hide how they naturally communicate for your comfort, that it probably isn't a good idea to comment on a forum aimed at accepting autistics as we are.

We are honest. We are direct.

"I get so maddened by AS people who refuse to have the same patience with and give the same allowances to other people on the spectrum as they might want themselves."

You might consider that in expecting AS people to spend energy communicating in a highly indirect political fashion as if they were NT, and insisting that they are saying unstated things when they are not, you are actually doing what makes you so angry in others...

celerest February 2 2006, 04:05:05 UTC

You know, I had a feeling that, if anyone was going to make me back down on this it would be you :) That is a compliment by the way.

Perhaps you have something. However, I do not expect people to communicate as if they were NT. I do expect them to think about what they say and how they say it. Everyone, NT or not, has to think about how they say what they say. It is the way of the world. We as AS people should not be exempt from that common curtesy.

I do not expect 'AS people to spend energy communicating in a highly indirect political fashion' at all. I just expect some common courtesy. If I go into a post with the aim of giving my experience and advice/oppinion which is asked for when you post a question in a discussion community, I expect people to at least court what I say. Not everything I say is correct, but not everything I say is incorrect either.

I accept autistics/AS as they/we are, but I also acknowledge that there are some things which are universal, no matter what 'label' one has.

celticess February 2 2006, 05:29:41 UTC

I'll agree on just because we are ac's doesn't mean it's acceptable to be rude. While sometimes we can be a little clueless I don't think we are oblivious from being blatantly mean. Note I didn't read all that thread to know one way or another what all went on. But over the years online and off I have ran into some that were not very pleasant people. Though mind you I think they had more than AS on their plate.(one of my ex's could be clueless and mean because of it but his case was PTSD and BPD which after I dumped him after being patient for 3 years I believe he got a dx of along with depression ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:34:07 UTC

Just as with NTs, and actually as with anyone, no matter what they do or do not have - you get nice people and you get not so nice people. AS people are not exempt from that rule - that is my view. I think it is all too easy to think kindly of someone with AS just because they have AS. That is flawed.

Children need that grounding in basic right and wrong, and basic courtesy - that is not some NT 'rule' that NT people try to force upon AS people just to make them the same, it is a rule that transcends the boundries of labels and diagnosis'. People forget that some rules DO fit every type of person.

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Copper Kettle sarcar February 2 2006, 04:35:35 UTC

Can you take a picture of a copper kettle on a burning stove ?
The TerrorVision Tequila song is whacky. Enjoying it.
Take care and don't let insensitive people rule your mind.

Re: Copper Kettle celerest February 2 2006, 04:44:42 UTC

If I can find a copper kettle and a burning stove, I shall take that picture for you. Perhaps I will find one in a charity shop - there are over 40 near my University Campus, and its the sort of random shit they stock. I;m on electric for my stove, but a few of my friends have gas so I will try my hardest. If not, then I shall maybe play with (slightly less specific) fire some and see what I can come up with for you - if that would suffice :)

The TerrorVision song is awesome - glad you found it/are enjoying it. I upload from time to time if I find a song worthy.

Thanks - they don't get me down, I have a back like a duck in that respect. Annoyances come and go. Once vented, it is old news :)

celticess February 2 2006, 05:13:03 UTC

I saw that thread and one other and purposely avoided it. I've learned sometimes to avoid posting because people can get nasty on some threads.(not specifically in that comm but specifically on the net in general on autism/AS comms ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:21:50 UTC

Yes - I am learning this about AS type communities and such. I truly think that some AS people use the fact that they have a label/diagnosis to justify saying what they like how they like, and that is not right. By all means be who you are, but everyone in every walk of life has to give at least some consideration to other people ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:22:59 UTC

And also, as a child my extensive vocab caused me to be singled out and bullied sometimes, so now I intentionally keep a lid on it, so it narks me even more when people go nazi on me.

celticess February 2 2006, 05:39:49 UTC

For me it frustrates me when they go nazi on me and I have to restraing myself from going to vulgar response.(partly too because I know I don't have a thick skin and am sensitive and will meltdown offline hurt if they get more mean) Normally I don't swear mutch but they push the button you know. See what it is for me is I can't get it out written or verbally and they I think feel some victory in seeing the struggled response or the gibbled response. Something about the way they phrase things. So it just gets under my skin because I can't get the words out which I'd like to use to make my point or tell them nicely to stick it. The more flustered or unwell I'm feeling the worse my ability to express gets.(I get to the point of dropping words or letters or adding letters ( ... )

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