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celerest

Pissy Rant and Lovely Photo

Feb 02, 2006 02:26

I have a rant. This rant is about an LJ community, or rather my experiences within said community. As such, it is behind a cut. If you look at it, I do not expect you to argue with me here. I really am too mad for words and anyone trying to tell me that I am wrong on my own turf will not be handled with care. You have been warned.

( AS is no excuse for being haughty )

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celticess February 2 2006, 05:13:03 UTC

I saw that thread and one other and purposely avoided it. I've learned sometimes to avoid posting because people can get nasty on some threads.(not specifically in that comm but specifically on the net in general on autism/AS comms ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:21:50 UTC

Yes - I am learning this about AS type communities and such. I truly think that some AS people use the fact that they have a label/diagnosis to justify saying what they like how they like, and that is not right. By all means be who you are, but everyone in every walk of life has to give at least some consideration to other people ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:22:59 UTC

And also, as a child my extensive vocab caused me to be singled out and bullied sometimes, so now I intentionally keep a lid on it, so it narks me even more when people go nazi on me.

celticess February 2 2006, 05:39:49 UTC

For me it frustrates me when they go nazi on me and I have to restraing myself from going to vulgar response.(partly too because I know I don't have a thick skin and am sensitive and will meltdown offline hurt if they get more mean) Normally I don't swear mutch but they push the button you know. See what it is for me is I can't get it out written or verbally and they I think feel some victory in seeing the struggled response or the gibbled response. Something about the way they phrase things. So it just gets under my skin because I can't get the words out which I'd like to use to make my point or tell them nicely to stick it. The more flustered or unwell I'm feeling the worse my ability to express gets.(I get to the point of dropping words or letters or adding letters ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 05:52:43 UTC

That is exactly how I feel about the way they use words as a weapon. Then someone comes along and says that aspies do not say things in an unstated way, and that what they say is what they mean - they seem to believe that someone with AS is incapable of conveying distaste or mockery through words without actually saying 'I am mocking you now'.

Yes, some autistics may not be able to manage the intricacies of language that well, but I for one can add tone to what I type, as very well can most of the AS people who use LJ. They just like to pretend that they cant because they can get away with more. My oppinion.

celticess February 2 2006, 06:11:29 UTC

Funny enough I think some of us have a very good sense of sarcasim and parody... I've seen us displaying our humour in that manner before and also sometimes our anger in that way ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 06:17:21 UTC

Its like the people who say people with AS can't lie - wtf? I could lie my way out of anything when I was younger.

We have a sense of humour - many have a wicked sense of fun and humour - it sometimes is not a common-place kind of humour, but it is definately there :)

Reading between the lines and manipulating language/people are skills which I believe are on a spectrum also. Some people with AS can't do them at all, some totaly can, and some have marginal abilities. Im fairly good with between the lines stuff if it is emotional (like anger or sarcasm) but miss it often if it is to do with social conventions and such. I recognise that 'cant put my finger on it' feeling also, and I hate when people tell me I am imagining that.

Word Play is not hard if you have a perseveration with words (as I do from time to time) - the meanings and sounds they make. I understand the humour in that :)

People too often assume that we dont have humour or the ability to manipulate, and one way of manipulating is to claim you can't do it!

celticess February 2 2006, 06:40:43 UTC

Well I am capable of lying but generally don't see the logic in it. I do white lie on occasion but mostly that is because I know what its like to sometimes feel hurt by things and if I sense it may hurt someone I may carefully phrase what I say. Most times it's not so much not lying as just doesn't occur to people and they are blunt.(so more of not realizing you've done some sort of social faux pas ( ... )

celerest February 2 2006, 06:45:25 UTC

Or they end up leading the country :) Oops - there goes my political views of the US getting in the way again.

I used to lie as a child, but now I don't do it - I don't like it and like you don't really see the point. I also white lie. As for manipulation, I know how to do it was my point - people make out like AS folk can't possibly do things like that. News flash - they totaly can. They just do it differently perhaps, or in different situations.

Debate is fun but only if it is reciprocal and dont in light heartedness or on even ground. Debate of one-up-manship is horrid.

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