Pissy Rant and Lovely Photo

[celerest]

I have a rant. This rant is about an LJ community, or rather my experiences within said community. As such, it is behind a cut. If you look at it, I do not expect you to argue with me here. I really am too mad for words and anyone trying to tell me that I am wrong on my own turf will not be handled with care. You have been warned.

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[celticess]

Funny enough I think some of us have a very good sense of sarcasim and parody... I've seen us displaying our humour in that manner before and also sometimes our anger in that way.

Btw on us not being able to read between the lines. I think while some of us might be incapable of us others of us are poor at it but capable. I've learned a little bit of it from life experience. Other times while I don't get it I get this feeling that something isn't right and it might not be a very nice thing though I as they say "can't put my finger on it."

With expressing myself sometimes despite my problems I can do it quite well. Other days I really struggle or wonder if I'm making my point clear.

Btw I have the ability to read several non english languages though I don't speak any non english languages fluently. I know some cantonese because of my children, some ASL because of my son, some french because we had to in school, and some latin in passing bits mentioned years ago in school. I'm not sure fully why I can grasp other languages or just know what bits mean but I suspect it's due to my visual ability and ability to spot patterns. So for me sometimes I find humour in language because of finding another meaning for a word(in some english slang or varient of english) or because it means something in another language. I've seen other autistics with better expressive language ability also do word play. Though a few I wonder if they go out of their way to use long words. I think most don't but some do because it makes them feel better than others maybe. *shrug*

[celerest]

Its like the people who say people with AS can't lie - wtf? I could lie my way out of anything when I was younger.

We have a sense of humour - many have a wicked sense of fun and humour - it sometimes is not a common-place kind of humour, but it is definately there :)

Reading between the lines and manipulating language/people are skills which I believe are on a spectrum also. Some people with AS can't do them at all, some totaly can, and some have marginal abilities. Im fairly good with between the lines stuff if it is emotional (like anger or sarcasm) but miss it often if it is to do with social conventions and such. I recognise that 'cant put my finger on it' feeling also, and I hate when people tell me I am imagining that.

Word Play is not hard if you have a perseveration with words (as I do from time to time) - the meanings and sounds they make. I understand the humour in that :)

People too often assume that we dont have humour or the ability to manipulate, and one way of manipulating is to claim you can't do it!

[celticess]

Well I am capable of lying but generally don't see the logic in it. I do white lie on occasion but mostly that is because I know what its like to sometimes feel hurt by things and if I sense it may hurt someone I may carefully phrase what I say. Most times it's not so much not lying as just doesn't occur to people and they are blunt.(so more of not realizing you've done some sort of social faux pas)

For manipulative people they bug me. If I spot one I try to avoid them because I don't like being hurt. I also try to avoid the ones though that use language in a twisty way to tie people in knots and in groups walk the grey line of what they know they can get kicked for. I do know someone that does that but has learned to not do it with me and they learned there are concequences.(because you walk that grey line for long enough causing squabbles or blowups with twisty speak people get fed up and you get thrown out of a group... the person in question got tossed off the UF message board though) Now though I think they probably hang in areas where they can get into reasoned debate. I think they are good at it and get a rush from it. But years ago I think they got a rush from messing with people on the board. They aren't ac though. But I think there is one in every crowd like that and they either grow up and knock it off or they end up voted off the island.

[celerest]

Or they end up leading the country :) Oops - there goes my political views of the US getting in the way again.

I used to lie as a child, but now I don't do it - I don't like it and like you don't really see the point. I also white lie. As for manipulation, I know how to do it was my point - people make out like AS folk can't possibly do things like that. News flash - they totaly can. They just do it differently perhaps, or in different situations.

Debate is fun but only if it is reciprocal and dont in light heartedness or on even ground. Debate of one-up-manship is horrid.