A PANDORA HEARTS TIMELINE

[ceitean]

***ETA: JULY 17, 2012***

ahahaha, this was made in 2009. Wow.

So yeah, this thing needs to updated, stat. I'm working on it right now, in fact, though it may take me a while to put in all the new information.

But I think I'm gonna leave this version of the timeline here. For posterity. (and so we can all laugh at ourselves over how wrong wrong wrong

Comments

[orchida]

This is actually really brilliant because I'm trying to write fic and you've helped me with certain parts and saved me from making some mistakes too.

??? D. S. - Jack has a confrontation with someone, Gilbert sees it. Jacks tells Gilbert to stay back.

??? D. S. - Gilbert gets slashed on the back trying to protect Jack.

??? D. S. - Jack picks up a bloody sword, and then goes to Glen.

??? D. S. - Gilbert points a knife at Alice with Vincent behind him. ‘Because of you! My master is in such agony because of you.’I'd put the last sentence before the first paragraph. Just because it doesn't (unless I'm way wrong, this is pandora after all) make much sense that Gilbert is stabbed one second then up and pointing knives at Alice in the next

[ceitean]

I figured it could be a really good resource for fic writers, which is part of why I want it to be as accurate as possible (also, I'm anal like that

[orchida]

It is! I'd made a tiny mini one for ages and the like, which I'm glad to see we agree on, but this includes information I was just going to take a guess at.

Oh, well it makes no sense at all, does it? I'm one of those of the opinion that it seems most likely Gilbert did stab her too. (at least for the moment) Which makes no sense if he's knocked out/half dead himself.

I think Alice was probably being spiteful too. I get the impression that Glen doesn't like Alice, or make contact with her as much as possible. In fact the only reason I could make sense of him telling her would be if she was somehow involved in the process, or had overheard something and elaborated on it herself, just to hurt Vincent.

I think the two of them are just lying children trying to get back at each other, you know, and seriously messed up.

Which kidnap attempt? I think I may be having memory loss... Unless it's the newest chapter, which I've not read yet. I try not to look at the spoilers, but failed a tiny bit...Well I think I've contradicted myself. And

[ceitean]

It all depends on if anyone in this series can actually tell the goddamn truth!!!

This, a million and one times! XD

ooo, what you said about Alice being involved in the process. Now that is fascinating. And would make a lot of sense considering that she had control of the power of abyss.

kidnap attempt - don't worry, this isn't in the new chapters. ^_^ It looks like it happened very soon after Gil became Oz's servant, since they were both really young looking. Oz mentioned it in the second chapter while talking to Alice to explain why he was taking being in the Abyss so calmly (he takes everything at face value); and then later, in a flashback, Gilbert mentions it before his 'I will always be your servant,' speech.

Though now that you mention it, I should probably put MASSIVE spoiler warnings on this thing, huh? *sheepish*

Oh my god, all of Gilbert's memories drove me bonkers. -_- Freaking Gilbert...

oh, to your earlier question - omg, I have no idea what the hell is up with Lacie. She's shown double, which is weird, but not

[zeldas]

You amaze me, you really do. I skimmed through it and realised how I should probably reread Pandora Hearts /o\ Instead, I'll go make me a warm drink and get back to this.

XD

[ceitean]

oh gosh, when I first made this it seemed like such a monster. Now it seems kinda smallish when I look at it. I went through every bit of Pandora and I still think I may have missed a few things. It doesn't help that the chronology for Sabrie/Sablier was put in a food blender and spit all through out the manga. /o\ And freaking Gilbert, making things so effing complicated with his brainwashing and his amnesia and...

You know, I'm starting to get why JM wails on Gilbert so much. >.< Seaweed head!

[eire_endellion]

You would not believe how much this helps for my Pandora Hearts RP site.
I've been trying to find information like this EVERYWHERE.
ilu <3 <3

[ceitean]

hee, I'm glad it helps!

♥

[astrialite]

Wow, that was quite amazing. Must've taken a hell of a long time to write. o: I applaud your efforts. /claps

Also, if you're confused about the Sabrie/Sablier spelling, it's Sablier. It means hourglass in French. /o/
Also Liam -> Reim, but I'm sure people are tired of me pointing that out already so I'll shut up about it. 8D;

[astrialite]

Oh, and here's one of the omake pages, and here's the translation~

(Translation issue - will be dead or already dead?)
Personally, I read it as will be dead, and it also makes more sense to me that way... But apparently I'm the only one who translated it that way. /shrugs

[ceitean]

omg THANK YOU THANK THANK YOU *squeals*

It makes more sense as 'will die', right? All of this 'Gilbert was already dead!' stuff doesn't really make sense since he wasn't dead. Either Alice was lying, which is totally possible, or it's a translation issue. Either way, this one thing could massively change how people think about the chronology of Sablier.

Even in her little speech, it makes more sense to say that Gil will die because Glen chose him for his next body. And then Miranda Barma was able to get him to open the Door because Vincent thought that he could save Gilbert from dying by messing up the ceremony before it even started.

[astrialite]

Exactly. The only way "died" would work is if Alice was lying, and it's possible, but it feels so contrived and un-Mochizuki. The story's confusing, but she wouldn't throw us something like that.
Although when Vincent arrived in the Abyss, it certainly looked like Gil was dead... Or just unconscious.

[xukty]

Oh thank you thank you THANK YOU for even TRYING to make it make sense! I've been trying forever and ever and I got nothing.

Break's age still confuses me, though. It will never stop confusing me. (If I'm correct, he lived for like, 39 years, plus those 30 years he missed in the Abyss...? I mean, everyone says Oz is 25 because he just missed 10 years of his life there. Or... something I don't know. >>;)

*salutes*

[ceitean]

^_^ I like analyzing stuff and uh. I found myself with a lot of time on my hands recently. orz

I know the Japanese wiki says he's 39, but it's a wiki and I'm not sure of the source for that piece of info.

Honestly, it all depends on how old Liam is, believe it or not. The omake says Liam went to live with the Rainsworths when he was 11, but it also says he stayed there for two years. Break could have popped up on the Rainsworth estate at any time during those two years that Liam was there- so that's between 13 to 15 years that Break has lived in the present time, all told.

Long story short- Break is somewhere between 37 and 39 years old. XD

Heh, I think people are just joking around when they say Oz is 25, like Oscar's hand waving about being old enough to drink alcohol. Oz should be 25 and Break should be 69ish. Older than Barma!

[xukty]

That's what I got. Damn you Liam for making this all so complicated. I'm never going to learn to call him "Reim". Never. It's a little different than learning to call Lenalee Lenalee instead of Linali.

Well, in his forties, while he should be in his seventies. Precise enough for me!

[ceitean]

I've been trying to think of him as Reim, b-but it's not working. orz

Liam Lunettes just rolls off the tongue! Reim Lunettes...eh. But it is canon. *sigh*