4th Test // Voice // After the blackout

Sep 05, 2011 11:18

Have been thinking about the implications of our being here. Imports, that is. Incident with Vulcanus sparked contemplation. Superpowers, supernatural, super tech, all introduced into world previously unfamiliar with such things. Power implies responsibility for how it’s used. Need to consider larger effects our activities could have on this world ( Read more... )

† mordin solus | the professor

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[voice] hateyoudearly September 5 2011, 16:43:19 UTC
The possibilities of doing something like that are... there. But they are just that, possibilities. Certainly, you'd have some idiots hear that there is a miracle salve that'll heal anything and go out and throw caution into the wind and end up killing themselves ( ... )

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[voice] heal_or_execute September 5 2011, 19:48:05 UTC
True. However, hypothetical other person is also just that- a possibility. Also, their worse intentions not my responsibility, as opposed to consequences of my own actions. Not obligated to potentially harm society to prevent someone else harming it first.

You're a doctor as well? Fascinating. Always good to meet another healer. Professor Mordin Solus, currently practicing at Import Clinic.

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[voice] hateyoudearly September 5 2011, 22:22:43 UTC
I suppose in the end it is all just hypothetical.

I'd say just use the tools you have for yourself. You have no duties to influence an entire society, but that doesn't mean the existence has to be a secret anyway. Which, it obviously isn't... but anyway. Heal what you can on your own. You know how things will react in your own hands, and the best idea is probably just to keep it there where no one else can butcher the idea.

I'm generally a transplant surgeon at home, though of course the rest of the healing often comes with the territory. Dr. Kazutaka Muraki, currently not practicing on account of being in a new City. Though I am seeking employment.

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[voice] heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 10:50:48 UTC
Hm. Yes. Most practical choice. Have already used medi-gel on critical patients without dire consequences. Can continue to do so and simply not pursue mass distribution. Ethically questionable to award myself a monopoly perhaps, but justified by unique situations in City. Extraordinary injuries more likely to require extraordinary treatment.

Transplant surgeon? Very useful kind of territory. If interested, would be happy to arrange a Clinic position for you. More likely to do general healing than transplants, though.

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voice rossum_ceo September 5 2011, 16:58:39 UTC
I understand how you feel Professor. It's a debate I've had myself. Unfortunately the outcome is not based solely on what you, or I choose to do. There are many other Imports who have already introduced advanced technology to this world, or at least have made the public aware that it exists. Now with Vulcanus doing much the same on a far wider scale it seems that us choosing to keep such knowledge to ourselves is ultimately pointless. If we instead made it available we could provide the people an alternative to villains like Vulcanus ( ... )

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voice heal_or_execute September 5 2011, 20:07:29 UTC
Harms of inaction hypothetical, however. Vulcanus' efforts thwarted, for now. Even if they weren't- refuse to be held responsible for results of their recklessness and cruelty. Their work, not mine! Same with actions of other Imports. Not going to police how Tony Stark sells his tech, but also don't have to imitate him.

Point regarding public opinion compelling however. Can't expect relatives of those who could be helped by medi-gel to be told their loved ones 'aren't ready' to be cured. Difficult question. No clear answer.

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voice rossum_ceo September 5 2011, 20:30:42 UTC
I know I wouldn't be able to turn those people away, but perhaps I'm not able to look at it as objectively as you. It's almost unfair isn't it? Helping heal people shouldn't force to have to worry about destroying an entire civilization in the process, but here we are.

Perhaps there are other technologies ones with less potential danger that could be useful. Advancements in diagnostics for example. That would help people without handing everything to them on platter.

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voice heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 11:02:54 UTC
True. Other Imports have been entering business and entertainment for years without hijacking course of human advancement. Could simply be a matter of making the right advances available. Small improvements, but still enough to help people. Diagnostic idea worth looking at.

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text technophantom September 5 2011, 18:24:37 UTC
You understand the implications better than someone not indigenous. The responsibility would be yours and yours alone, however...

A very wise philosophy holds that war and disease are lesser forms of suffering than the cultural annihilation that occurs when a far more technologically advanced group shares with a group ill-prepared to handle their advances.

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Voice heal_or_execute September 5 2011, 20:02:29 UTC
Benefit of extraterrestial perspective, perhaps. View this world as an alien planet that I'm an outsider to, more mindful of consequences.

But yes! [Mordin can be heard pacing as he talks, quickly and passionately] Cultural annihilation- no, stagnation. Worst possible outcome of artificially-induced advancement. Technological and sociological progress result of sentient beings adapting and innovating in response to challenge. Need to organize society, create system of governance. Need to treat injury, devise medical practices. Process of discovery painful and messy, but part of intelligence, manifestation of free-will. Remove challenge, interfere with process, damage culture.

[Mordin inhales, then speaks more slowly and softly]

However... very detached perspective. No comfort to sick and injured. Treating their suffering as necessary loss for sake of 'natural' advancement? Hard to say. Seeing the big picture can be its own danger. Risk to compassion, understanding.

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switchin to voice; technophantom September 5 2011, 23:10:22 UTC
[warming to this topic a little, responding to the obvious amount of care that Mordin has for it] That is a precise articulation of the difficulty.

[he draws up short at the notion he's detached, not offended--it could be true. He gives it a second of honest, logical thought. Feels guilty, bro.] Perhaps. I--can recognize that I am not always in tune with those concerns.

Is there any possibility that your technology could be perverted for evil use, or that it would be cost-prohibitive for those who really need it?

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heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 11:14:55 UTC
Yes on both counts. Technology involved in manufacture centuries ahead of current Earth practices, even accounting for influence of Imports. Production possible, but would inevitably be expensive. Hard to avoid product being restricted to those who can afford it.

Also, medi-gel can be applied from a distance. Microscopic spray, very convenient. Conceivable that it could be modified as a weapon. Instantly seal off target's orifices, blind, suffocate. Terrifying.

Actually, could be useful for nonlethal incapacitation. Hm. Tests...

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[Video] ex_julianhe September 5 2011, 19:46:07 UTC
Something like that could save a lot of lives. Isn't that the most important thing?

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[Video] heal_or_execute September 5 2011, 20:11:05 UTC
[Mordin's rubbing his chin]

Yes, from medical perspective. First and greatest imperative, preservation of life. But, other outcomes to consider. Other priorities. Freedom, independence, self-determination, all also important. Assuming even partial responsibility for this society's advancement threatens to compromise those values. Could set dangerous precedent.

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[Video] ex_julianhe September 5 2011, 22:21:54 UTC
But isn't that why we're here? The Porter brought us to be heroes. We're supposed to act to save people, aren't we? What's the difference between fighting demons and zombies, and fighting illness? If the second one's the thing you're good at, that's what you should do.

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[Video] heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 11:23:05 UTC
Personally practicing medicine in City not an issue. More a question of whether I should help rest of planet fight illness the same way as me.

Example- assuming that your powers are useful in combat. If you could give them to others around the world for law enforcement purposes, would you?

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byholeystgeorge September 5 2011, 23:01:18 UTC
Bit late to be worrying about all that, innit? All went off-course the moment the porter went and invited us lot in.

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heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 11:35:43 UTC
Effects of Porter abductions on this world's society... mixed, at best. Don't want to add to them any more than absolutely necessary. At least, don't want to do any more harm. Encouraging others to be careful also worthwhile.

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byholeystgeorge September 6 2011, 14:58:56 UTC
Now that’s tossing them the short bit of the stick, I’d say. Make ‘em put up with all this rubbish and murders and mayhem, but don’t throw in the perks of our peculiar kind of invasion? Seems a bit unfriendly like.

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heal_or_execute September 6 2011, 23:10:19 UTC
Not certain advancing Earth's medical technology would qualify as 'perk.' Still, acknowledge the point- damage caused by Import presence could imply collective responsibility to make positive contributions. Might be worth risk of sharing advanced tech. Try to counter extraordinary destruction with extraordinary benefits, hopefully even things out somewhat.

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