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hollywobbles November 6 2011, 21:51:52 UTC
Oh dear. a) I hate Lee in this episode. Do *all* of Bill's friends and relatives have shitty radar? b) Poor Bill. :(

He staggered into his bedroom and saw the white rose petals scattered across the dark bedcover. It looked like Zak's coffin as the hot summer sun had caused the flower arrangements to wilt.

OOF.

I'm really curious to see how you're going to try to resolve their religious incompatibility, which at this moment, honestly, seems pretty insurmountable.

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bugsfic November 7 2011, 03:52:23 UTC
Do *all* of Bill's friends and relatives have shitty radar?

They do. They truly do. So useful to a writer. Guess who shows up next chapter? :D

The son's coffin was a painful imagine, wasn't it? There is nowhere I won't go!

I'm really curious to see how you're going to try to resolve their religious incompatibility, which at this moment, honestly, seems pretty insurmountable.

I don't know if it's so incompatible, as forcing Laura to look at her faith openly, which she's been avoiding for years. That is supposed to be her cancer, after all. I just need to make sure Bill doesn't become an ass about his beliefs. :D

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hollywobbles November 7 2011, 04:47:17 UTC
At the risk of being a little obnoxious, have we been given any evidence that she hasn't looked at her faith openly? All we know about her is that she's been in a convent her whole life, and she has the personality and analytical mind of Laura Roslin. The nuns I've met have been really on the ball, and Laura's an intelligent woman who went to Berkeley. It's the contemplative life after all. ;) There's a stereotype that anyone who's remained religiously devout their whole life isn't taking a careful look at things, and although it's certainly true about many of them, I wouldn't have guessed Laura would be like that. (It's not my intent to argue with your chosen storyline, I'd just love to see a little bit of her thought pattern if that's where you go ( ... )

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smpolyglot November 7 2011, 06:19:38 UTC
Not to be obnoxious with hollywobbles but I was almost thinking the same thing. I thought the convent/religious life was the cancer not her faith. I guess because I've seen plenty of people in real life grow up within a Religion but as they grew and matured, they realize that it was Religion that was a cancer to their faith. So they cut out/broke away from the Formal Religion/Church in order to save their faith/spirituality. They usually didn't see faith/spirituality as the cancer but formal religion was the thing that was killing their spirituality. They definitely had a dividing line between faith and formal religion and they didn't see them as being the same thing at all. So based on that and the initial chapters I figured Laura was going through that same process as well but when faith gets labeled as the cancer now I'm confused as to what that means ( ... )

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bugsfic November 7 2011, 03:56:47 UTC
I know! Trust me, it's just as depressing to write as to read.

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defyingnormalcy November 6 2011, 22:18:00 UTC
You and bsg_aussiegirl are determined to break my heart. I know this now. There is a Canadian yelling at her screen right now while crying, her family thinks she has gone insane and her dog is hiding under the pillows on the couch because he is very afraid. It's all your fault.

"Oh now, don't you go all Catholic school girl on me," he spit out, taking a step closer. "Just because I haven't stuck my dick in you, doesn't mean nothing has happened. Something's happened, and you know it! Dammit, Laura--"

BILL! You are such an ass when you are drunk!

I a still beating your Adams Verse Bill, when I am done I am going to beat the shit out of this Bill.

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nixmom November 6 2011, 22:38:57 UTC
See I'm kinda with Bill here. He may have been a bit crass, but he's right. She can't hide and pretend there's nothing between them. Working these sorts of things out is what adult relationships are about. She's afraid and running away. Neither of them is acting particularly mature in this situation, but damn, Bill gets no sympathy from you evah!

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defyingnormalcy November 6 2011, 22:50:58 UTC
Oh, don' get me wrong, I totally sympathize with him here. But as the emotionally more mature/experienced of the two he should know better.

I guess I was so thrilled by Laura's emotional growth and I feel like that comment from Bill may set her/their relationship back. :(

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nixmom November 6 2011, 23:21:45 UTC
Oh I was all thrilled to, but everyone has to learn about the ugly side of people and relationships. I'd rather they do it over something big like dead kids and religion than over who leaves the cap off the tooth paste, You survive the first usually. The later can be more devastating.

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k_d_456_345_a November 6 2011, 22:36:19 UTC
As painful as this is, I dread the next day for both of them even more, when the anger the fades or calcifies and the the self-recriminations begin. Bill is ugly here but surely Laura will also feel she failed the test of being emotionally present for him. Don't let her be emotionally as well as sexually stunted for long, please. Still whimpering...

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defyingnormalcy November 6 2011, 23:00:39 UTC
I dread the next day for both of them even more, when the anger the fades or calcifies and the the self-recriminations begin.

Yes, THIS. I agree. Those kinds of wounds are going to sting more in the following days. :(

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bugsfic November 7 2011, 05:30:44 UTC
Ah yes, but Bill has that 'It's over now' attitude that's soooo annoying! But I don't think Laura was a huge grudge-holder, except for when it came to Baltar, which was totally understandable.

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defyingnormalcy November 7 2011, 05:46:51 UTC
I can't see Laura as a grudge holder either. Grudges are personal, the anger she felt towards Baltar was not personal, she mourned for all of humanity because of his stupidity, not for herself, does that make sense? I don't see her anger towards Baltar as a grudge, it's something far deeper.

And Bill needs to get the frak over that attitude. Like now. x__O

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carlylejt November 6 2011, 23:25:02 UTC
just so you know...you're killing me with this right now.....ugh!

but i'm a masochist...so i kinda love it! :)

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bugsfic November 7 2011, 05:00:48 UTC
but i'm a masochist...so i kinda love it! :)

A reader after my own heart!

It will get better, to quote Dan Savage!

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