Fanon and an actual mature request

Mar 02, 2010 14:08

-- I know there are, like, a billion things that Kirk/Spock writers regard as fanon that has no canon basis, but my current confusion is in regard to Jim being allergic to everything. The only two real pieces of canon in which it explicitly states that Kirk has an allergic reaction is in Wrath of Khan with Kirk being allergic to the stuff that will ( Read more... )

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bigmamag March 2 2010, 22:19:17 UTC
That part's easy. To do it all in one go, you have to upload all the pics to a place like photobucket because it keeps the file's name (tinypic won't work because it gives a custom url code thingy.) Once you upload, you do the copy + replace thing. Here's the instructions that were given when I did this mood theme (which kind of don't work with mine because it's really just one pic except the nostalgic mood is old Spock) and usually the person who uploads the mood theme will link to instructions. Just follow them carefully and it should be simple. :)

Ooh, I've read two House/Star Trek crossovers, though one wasn't good and the other was this amazing one, so maybe those are the ones you're talking about. If not, LINK, lol ( ... )

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vinylsigns March 2 2010, 22:10:20 UTC
I LOVE THAT FIC. I may need to go digging around in my delicious so I can throw some H/W at you, hmmmmm

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bigmamag March 2 2010, 22:21:33 UTC
Ooh please do, because I've been having trouble finding the good stuff. It's a big fandom and I'm too lazy to find good rec lists. :)

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vinylsigns March 2 2010, 22:27:24 UTC
Wellll, imo the good writing has taken a siesta or gone into hiding, as of late, but I'll see what I can find!

EDIT: whee, try these on :) It's been a while since I've read them, but I remember excellence.

In the House of Plenty, this one's a bit more on the friendshippy side, but H & W are pitch perfect.

teeny snippet:

The problem with knowing Wilson too well was that Wilson also knew him too well. "Putting you in a grief counseling group is like setting Imelda Marcos loose in a shoe store. I'm surprised you didn't come out with a shopping cart full of fiancées."

"I have them on back order," Wilson replied. "They don't actually go on sale until the mourning period is over."

Futile, set after House's overdose in season 3, does a wonderful job of showing their bond, but doesn't sugar coat a thing surrounding the events of "Merry Little Christmas"

Permutations, I think this is actually the fandom that gave me a taste for the surreal :3

Sometimes, when he’s bored or pensive, House toys with the universe, and right now seems as ( ... )

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bigmamag March 3 2010, 04:29:24 UTC
Sweet beans! I shall totally have good reading material for a while! You are awesome. :D

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sineala March 2 2010, 22:16:14 UTC
Man, I hope someone explains the Vulcan + chocolate thing. Do not get it.

Books: Have you read E.M. Forster's Maurice? He was gay, and it's, um, kind of semi-autobiographical, and it was only published after his death because he refused to write a sad ending. So it has a happy ending. For a gay couple. In 1913. It's totally made of awesome. And it reads as heartbreakingly real and alive, at least to me. (Plus, it is Real Literature.)

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bigmamag March 2 2010, 22:24:37 UTC
I know, right? I really would like to know how that even came to be. I really wish I had saved that older fic about Spock getting drunk on sugar, it was fascinating and may have been a precursor or something. I believe in TOS Spock mentioned that alcohol had no effect on Vulcans, or something to that nature, so I guess fandom just wants to get the guy drunk on his ass some other way. :)

Now that sounds like a book that's right up my alley. Real literature and real homosexual, ftw. \o/

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sineala March 3 2010, 04:01:36 UTC
The only thing I can think of about TOS and alcohol goes in the opposite direction -- in Diane Duane's novels (which are not canon but might as well be in the hearts of fans, like, um, me) the discussion of Romulan ale in The Romulan Way mentions that pre-Surak Vulcans had also made wine. Presumably they were drinking it.

Maurice is probably my number one favorite piece of gay male literature. It's just so incredibly immediate and vibrant and I am really glad it has that happy ending. (Also there is a movie of it. Hugh Grant plays Maurice's closeted school friend. They have an angsty relationship for a bit.)

...when you say science fiction, do you mean SF and fantasy, or just the kind with spaceships?

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bigmamag March 3 2010, 04:43:08 UTC
When I say science fiction, I mean just plain old space ships and time travel and stuff like that. Fantasy, to me, is a separate genre, though really they're not since they often coexist in a work of fiction, plus libraries disagree. :)

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cicero_drayon March 2 2010, 22:52:06 UTC
I know that in the novelization for The Voyage Home there's a little tidbit that takes place in between the spare change scene and the whale meld (LOL) scene in which the author (Vonda McIntyre) tosses in a little piece of fanon about sucrose period having an intoxicating effect on Vulcans (to explain away said ridiculous whale meld, I presume...), so I guess it's just spread like wildfire from there, chocolate being the easiest and most hilarious receptacle. And I've only seen the allergy thing twice, too, in the contexts you've mentioned, so I don't know about that. I guess it's, like, cute or something?

For books--crap. I shamefully haven't read too much outside of school DUE TO ALL THIS FANFICTION due to just, being busy, a heh, and everything I can think of is either a.) a series or b.) long and depressing. Ooops. But just to toss some rec's anyway: Douglas Adams's classic Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series, which is HILARIOUS and cerebral and ridiculous and BRILLIANT; if you haven't read it yet WHATCHA WAITIN' FO ( ... )

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bigmamag March 3 2010, 04:47:48 UTC
Well hey, a little more explanation for this sugar thing is more than welcome. I really need to read more ST books. The only other one I've read besides the TMP novelization is Cadet Kirk, which is about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy meeting for the first time, but I didn't like it.

Heh, I may need to catch up on all the fic I've backlogged before tackling books. But omg, I totally have read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. That is such a great series. I've heard good things about The Time Travel's Wife, so I may give that a view as well.

I just watched Just My Luck! Totally worth it to see Chris Pine shirtless. And it's not a totally horrible movie either, despite being predictable as hell.

This mood theme is indeed the one with the TOS nostalgia. :D It amuses me to no end.

I also do not know the meaning of the word 'maximum word count' when commenting, so no worries. Plus I like reading what you have to say, it's always interesting to me.

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cicero_drayon March 3 2010, 22:56:06 UTC
You've really only read so few fan novels? This is a tragedy, 'specially if you didn't like them. Can I put in some recs for those as well? For the slashy ones, the only one's I've read are Price of the Phoenix, which is kind of awful but so, so worth it, and select ones in the New Voyages I, which were really, really good. And for non-slashy, Federation and Collision Course were pretty good too. /nerd pimping. This isn't helping on your fic backlog, is it? :/

I definitely would give it a try. It was kind of a beautiful book, if I do say so myself. xD

Aww, thanks. That makes my day. I'm interesting!

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bigmamag March 4 2010, 04:38:54 UTC
I've heard that The Killing Time is the slashiest ST book of all time, of ALL TIME, because the people who published it actually had to go in and edit the book because of how slashy it was and because the woman who wrote it also wrote K/S slash.

And I did read Nichelle Nichols' story out of New Voyages 1, so at least there's that. I still want to read the one in which the actors are sent on the actual Enterprise.

And no, my fic backlog is through the roof, lol. At least I'm waiting a week until my sister is on vacation and wants to spend some time at the library to get books. I figured I may as well wait for her because it'll give me time to ingest fic. \o/

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_profiterole_ March 2 2010, 23:01:20 UTC
I mostly read fantasy, which always works in series: Nightrunner by Lynn Flewelling, Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner.

And if you want some sci-fi (it's part of a big series, but this works as a one-shot, and I only read this one), I was talking about Ethan of Athos to andieshep some time ago and it put me in a reccing mood.

(All books mentioned here are canon m/m.)

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bigmamag March 3 2010, 04:48:55 UTC
I was going to say 'I'll be getting to these a million years from now since they're a series' but then you said canon m/m so they just got bumped up. \o/

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_profiterole_ March 3 2010, 07:03:47 UTC
Mission accomplished! :-)

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