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Dec 11, 2007 13:45

Dear Ron Paullowers,

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kingthunder December 11 2007, 19:53:45 UTC
They only show two or three incomplete quotes completely out of context. I'd have to see the full newsletter to have a stance on this.

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The problem being... mythworker December 11 2007, 20:43:56 UTC
Ron Paul refuses to release back-issues of his self-published newsletter, "The Ron Paul Political Report" to the press.

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It's either Paul or Kucinich little_speaker December 11 2007, 19:56:38 UTC
While I dislike a lot of Paul's...uh....'remarks', I have to say that our country is in such a sorry state that I actually find myself overlooking that and the fact he want's to do away with Roe vs. Wade and say that he is my second choice candidate, after Kucinich ( ... )

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clobby December 11 2007, 20:40:47 UTC
Why is that? Because he's clearly a racist? Don't you think that these quotes would be waaaaay more publicly known if there were any truth to them?

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zentiger December 11 2007, 20:47:34 UTC
Two things are possible:

1: Ron Paul wrote the offending remarks himself;
2: Someone working for Ron Paul wrote the offending remarks.

If 1 is the case, he's a racist asshole. If 2 is the case, at best he is the sort of person who will publish racist asshole comments, and refuse to retract them or distance himself from them.

We can't tell which is the case because RP refuses to release these old issues and nobody seems to have a copy. Either way, a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for a nutjob.

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kingthunder December 11 2007, 20:12:08 UTC
Most republicans aren't "republican" on the issues. If anything he is as libretarian as they come man. He is prolife but is for states rights to chose where and when abortions can be done. He is against govt. subsidies to private businesses and he is for the constitution and anti censorship and pro legalisation of marijuana. Which other republicans agree with all of those?

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kingthunder December 11 2007, 21:24:49 UTC
Republican: Someone who favours a republic; an anti-monarchist.
Someone who favours social equality and opposes aristocracy and privilege.

These are no longer the ideals which represent the Republican party.

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I don't know if I count as a Ron Paullian... kelglitter December 11 2007, 20:08:13 UTC
Hmm... Well, I would start by stating that pretty much everybody is racist. If you say you're not, well, you probably certainly are. If you don't like that assessment, I have not only good statistics on my side but also a whole host of racial reconciliation experts who would attest to the same. The assessment of blacks as "fleet-footed" might actually be a positive racial stereotype that he's applying (as a female of a certain age who ran track Florence Griffith Joyner and Jackie Joyner Kersey come to mind as heroes). The problem is that positive or not, it's still a racial stereotype ( ... )

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Re: I don't know if I count as a Ron Paullian... kingthunder December 11 2007, 20:13:58 UTC
Beautifully stated.

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"pretty much everybody is racist" mythworker December 11 2007, 20:59:29 UTC
But some people go out of their way, like Ron Paul agreeing to appear on a radio program that espouses racism on a regular basis...

"Paul's disinclination to separate himself from the Larry Pratts of the world is part of a pattern that over the last 20 years has seen him snuggling up to some extremely questionable characters on the far right fringe. Like, for example, secessionists, who gathered at a conference in April of 1995 to hear Paul speak about the "once and future Republic of Texas." Or the beady-eyed listeners of The Political Cesspool. It's the unofficial radio program of the Council of Conservative Citizens--you know, the repainted White Citizens Council that got Trent Lott into a bit of trouble a few years ago. (Tune in tonight for their special program on "the disastrous Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education decision, one which ushered in an era of radical leftist ideology upon the American citizenry.") Paul has been a guest on the program; you'll find him listed under P, right above Prussian Blue, the white supremacist ( ... )

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Re: "pretty much everybody is racist" kingthunder December 11 2007, 21:34:06 UTC
Being on a show with a slant (whether racist or not) does not assign any of their views to you. If you go on the O'Reiley Factor, this does not mean you are one of the far right. The article that you quote is highly suspect anyway. Anyone who colors their speech with phrases like "beady little eyes" has a harsh slant and ideology. The fact that he is listed alphabetically next to Prussian Blue is clearly just stating a fact and forcing a political stance onto it. Alphabeticaly Kumqwats and the Ku Klux Klan are near each other. This doesn't mean that Kumqwats are racist. The fact that Ron Paul went on a show that also had Prussian Blue on it does not mean that Paul is a fan or even knows who they are.

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