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[benchilada]

Dear Ron Paullowers,

Discuss.

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EDIT: AS ALWAYS, comments that degrade into insults and / or general horribleness will be frozen and/or deleted.

Comments

I don't know if I count as a Ron Paullian...

[kelglitter]

Hmm... Well, I would start by stating that pretty much everybody is racist. If you say you're not, well, you probably certainly are. If you don't like that assessment, I have not only good statistics on my side but also a whole host of racial reconciliation experts who would attest to the same. The assessment of blacks as "fleet-footed" might actually be a positive racial stereotype that he's applying (as a female of a certain age who ran track Florence Griffith Joyner and Jackie Joyner Kersey come to mind as heroes). The problem is that positive or not, it's still a racial stereotype

Re: I don't know if I count as a Ron Paullian...

[kingthunder]

Beautifully stated.

"pretty much everybody is racist"

[mythworker]

But some people go out of their way, like Ron Paul agreeing to appear on a radio program that espouses racism on a regular basis...

"Paul's disinclination to separate himself from the Larry Pratts of the world is part of a pattern that over the last 20 years has seen him snuggling up to some extremely questionable characters on the far right fringe. Like, for example, secessionists, who gathered at a conference in April of 1995 to hear Paul speak about the "once and future Republic of Texas." Or the beady-eyed listeners of The Political Cesspool. It's the unofficial radio program of the Council of Conservative Citizens--you know, the repainted White Citizens Council that got Trent Lott into a bit of trouble a few years ago. (Tune in tonight for their special program on "the disastrous Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education decision, one which ushered in an era of radical leftist ideology upon the American citizenry.") Paul has been a guest on the program; you'll find him listed under P, right above Prussian Blue, the white supremacist

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kingthunder]

Being on a show with a slant (whether racist or not) does not assign any of their views to you. If you go on the O'Reiley Factor, this does not mean you are one of the far right. The article that you quote is highly suspect anyway. Anyone who colors their speech with phrases like "beady little eyes" has a harsh slant and ideology. The fact that he is listed alphabetically next to Prussian Blue is clearly just stating a fact and forcing a political stance onto it. Alphabeticaly Kumqwats and the Ku Klux Klan are near each other. This doesn't mean that Kumqwats are racist. The fact that Ron Paul went on a show that also had Prussian Blue on it does not mean that Paul is a fan or even knows who they are.

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[zentiger]

This doesn't mean that Kumqwats are racist.

Wow. You really have no idea about the long history of the Kumquat Superiority Movement, do you?

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kingthunder]

I'm just saying that the kumquats aren't racist because of their alphabetical placement. Of course I know Kumquats are racist.

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[zentiger]

Oh, OK. As long as you're not one of those kumquat-apologists.

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kingthunder]

Oh, I'm sorry you must have missed the rest of that paragraph. My bad, I should have put the rest of my argument first, oh, wait, I did.

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kingthunder]

The Kumquats point was a metaphor dude. Not a real major point of my argument.

You look like Lincoln Burrowes from Prison Break. This is pretty awesome.

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kelglitter]

I think that your logic would then extend to calling McCain racist since he appeared with Sascha Baron Cohen as Ali G, or calling Gore a sexist because he happens to have been on The Daily Show, where there are sometimes sexist jokes....

Re: "pretty much everybody is racist"

[kelglitter]

Hey, look, statistics do not equal science, and unless God comes down and equates them (and maybe not even if he does) I'm not going to consider that helpful. But then I guess equating 'pretty much everybody' with 'everybody' is somewhat specious too, and you seem to be OK with that. If you really like misconstruing things, that's cool and I can hack it.

I couldn't stomach Borat. It offended me. Is that proof that he's racist? Well, I don't think so, but the reason it offended me is that I had a problem the idea of a theater full of people laughing at racial stereotypes. I mean, yeah, the point wasn't to commit a Hollywood hate crime, or provoke protests with fighting words, but there are people out there of (x,y,z) persuasion actually living with those stereotypes and a movie that pokes fun at them also has the perhaps un-planned effect of perpetuating them. Lenny Bruce was funny in a similar way, but I might never have learned the word 'wop' if it weren't for him....

'ear me boh

[clobby]

Racialist, not racist.