A relevant link and story--

[bellatrys]

How Adrian Brody molested Halle Berry at the 2003 Oscars and got away with it, from Men Can Stop Rape; I don't watch TV and didn't even hear about this, so unimportant a scandal was it compared to, say, Bjork's costume faux pas, until someone mentioned it in the ongoing multi-blog Ellison-vs-Willis discussion. So I googled it, and WTF? But just

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[nenya_kanadka]

I remember seeing that, and there being discussion at the time, and being conflicted about what to think, because it looked cute--two cute people snogging--and would have been cute if they had been together. Only, they weren't. He seemed like he did it out of enthusiasm and surprise that he'd won, in the way you'd fling arms around a friend when your team won or something. (I didn't catch what he said about the gift bag--which totally changes the tone--so it kind of looked impulsive and not intentionally hurtful.) Except that kissing someone is sexual, and hugs often aren't, and they weren't best buddies. That's part of the problem, I guess, if he wouldn't even *think* about it.

And the more I think about it, the more that line about Halle Berry being part of the gift bag ticks me off. :( Damn, it was a good Oscar night otherwise.

[chaoticgoodnik]

Google Issac Mizrahi and Teri Hatcher for a similar incident.

that's linked in the previous post

[bellatrys]

under the text "even gay men can play the cunt card", because it too has been mentioned as part of this whole dynamic.

[evilstorm]

Mm. Word. I don't think he intended it maliciously or even in that stupid arrogant way that most guys do, but it was inappropriate, impolite and goddamn stupid anyway. Therefore word.

(Also? Totally orgasmed over that icon. Totally. Augh. ♥)

That's what Entitlement/Privilege *looks* like

[bellatrys]

it's no more considered out of line than somebody patting a Golden Retriever a little too hard, or fondling its ears when it's headshy and doesn't want it. (Of course, as I mentioned before, do that to a dog and you may need to go to the ER.)

A lot of bloggers I saw when looking it up commented on how "cute" it was, especially her shocked expression...

Re: That's what Entitlement/Privilege *looks* like

[evilstorm]

Hurrrr. Point. Shouldn't happen at all, eh.

(Do that to me and you'd probably end up in the ER. So, well, yes. Point very much taken.)

You might think so.

[bellatrys]

But what if it's a friend? A respected community elder? Everyone likes to *think* that they'd scream/fight back/be different, but when it happens, how many do? About as many as men actually step in chivalrously and make their brother male stop, I'd bet. One of the many stories of con molestation now coming out all over the place as a result of this (thus destroying the "isolated incident/bad apple" excuses) is how a woman was ass-groped at a skywatching group of fellow fen, and turned around and found a man she had trusted, grinning at her, who ran away when she exlaimed in betrayal, "I thought you were a friend!"