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bardicvoice

6.07 Family Matters: You Pose An Interesting Philosophical Question

Nov 08, 2010 23:35

6.07 Family Matters: You Pose An Interesting Philosophical Question

Demon Crowley plots
To annex Purgatory,
Home of monster souls.

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saltnburnem November 9 2010, 06:04:28 UTC

Loved this episode, and although some fans have found the "answers that just lead to more questions" a negative feature....I'm enjoying the ride ( ... )

bardicvoice November 10 2010, 01:28:59 UTC

Thanks!

I was raised Catholic, but early in my teens went through my Summer of Comparative Religion, during which I read a lot, everything from the Bible and St. Augustine to Martin Luther to the Qu'ran and Bhagavad Gita in translation, to the Book of Mormon. And then I discovered Joseph Campbell and The Masks Of God, and I finally found myself.

Thanks for sharing your trip beneath the Vatican! I knew about the catacomb paintings, but I really loved hearing about them firsthand from you!

sidhe_woman November 9 2010, 10:01:04 UTC

As always, a fascinating take on the Supernatural world as displayed on the show.

There was one thing you didn't mention, and that's the possibility of Sam's agenda. The last image of him in this ep was of that tiny cold one-sided smile. It seemed like triumph to me, and not because he and Dean were still a team of sorts.

At first I was vey doubtful about where the scripts were taking this season, but I'm in it for the duration, no question. While part of me desperately wants Team Winchester back in all its twisted up glory, I'll happily follow the dark twists and turns until we get there.

bardicvoice November 10 2010, 01:43:40 UTC

Thanks! And you're right; I need to state my bias. I want to believe Sam does desire to reclaim himself as he was, and that colors the way I see him now. The danger is, that may not represent the truth. In his current non-empathic, sociopathic state, he may see his current condition as preferable: after all, he has become the consummate hunter in his lack of need for sleep and his utter and complete absence of awareness of fear. His personal agenda may not encompass the restoration of his soul. We still don't know what happened to him in that cage in Hell, trapped with Michael and Lucifer and Jake; we still don't know how this much of him escaped. And for as long as he's lacking his soul, we aren't ever going to be able to read his true intentions, because we can't sense emotions he doesn't even have ( ... )

labseraph November 9 2010, 15:53:06 UTC

You gotta hand it to Sera Gamble and her crew; they're just not afraid to tread where angels (no pun intended) fear to go. Initially I thought that having Sam missing a soul as a cheap trope, but the development is satisfying.

As usual, you bring new clarity to the watching of the episode. I was just to busy squeeing and flopping around to calm down my palpitations.

bardicvoice November 10 2010, 01:50:09 UTC

Thank you! And I definitely hand it to Sera Gamble and company; I'm enjoying this season even though I desperately want Sam to be again the Sam I knew and loved before.

Dagnabbit, isn't if Friday yet?

brieza November 9 2010, 18:29:08 UTC

"In every demon deal we’ve seen, the human’s soul formed an essential part of the deal. In exchange for a soul - and occasionally other considerations, as we saw with Azazel extracting the Colt from John at the end of In My Time Of Dying - the demon provided whatever the human asked, from fame, fortune, talent, or health in Crossroad Blues to full-blown resurrection in All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2 to the location of Death and the restoration of Bobby’s legs in Two Minutes To Midnight. We learned in The Devil You Know that a soul was the one absolutely essential ingredient to power the magic of wish fulfillment; without a soul for juice, the engine couldn’t run ( ... )

bardicvoice November 10 2010, 02:37:33 UTC

Thanks! And you're right - I think I wondered somewhere about Azazel bringing John back without a soul to power the wish, but I can't find it at the moment and I'm too bloody tired to look ... :) Good question!

brieza November 10 2010, 13:57:04 UTC

I forgot to mention that I'm so happy to find someone else that is enjoying the season. Popping in over at TWOP, I feel like a freak. Everyone there seems to be completely dumping on the season. (Family Matters got an F from the recapper. Am I watching the same show he is?)

Random comments anonymous November 9 2010, 19:59:41 UTC

I remember one episode (the magician one) where Sam is saying "I wish it would all end" and Dean saying "it will never end" regarding fighting monsters. I wonder if this season will touch on that argument (hopefully on Sam's side if this is to be the last season).

Re: Random comments bardicvoice November 10 2010, 02:43:10 UTC

I'm hoping - and thinking - this won't be the last season. But in the end, I don't see the hunt stopping, because I don't see evil ever departing the mortal world. What I hope is that in the end, the brothers could find a way both to accommodate knowing the real existence of evil and hunting it, while also finding a balance in love and family - rather the way Samuel and Deanna managed to do for all the years they raised Mary, before Azazel destroyed them all.

That's my two cents, anyway ... :)

Re: Random comments anonymous November 10 2010, 12:33:06 UTC

Well, 6th season or 7th season, I guess my previous thoughts can be truly summed up by the wish to see whether or not the brothers fulfill their belief that they won't be "doing this when we're 60".