Loved this episode, and although some fans have found the "answers that just lead to more questions" a negative feature....I'm enjoying the ride! As a Catholic, I appreciate your review of other Christian churches' beliefs. I've been on a tour of the excavations under the Vatican (the Scavi.) As we got closer to the underside of the High Altar, that is, closer to where St. Peter was buried, there were paintings near some of the graves. These dated back to the time of Jesus (or shortly thereafter, really.) They were from the families of the deceased, asking for prayers for their loved ones, explaining that they were good followers of Jesus, etc. These are the first Roman Catholic foundations of our belief in Purgatory, dating back to the time shortly after Jesus' death. They seem to reference a "place" that one might go before Heaven, but from which one could move on. These writings on the walls beneath the Vatican better support the concept of Purgatory for Catholics today. Given that as MY foundation......the Supernatural version of Purgatory being chock-full of monsters made little sense. So your explanation that there are other concepts out there helps open the field up a bit for me! I'm still not 100% sold on that being Crowley's true interest. I wonder what Crowley has offered to Samuel......what is that deal!? The writer's sure are keeping us guessing......Is it Friday yet!?
I was raised Catholic, but early in my teens went through my Summer of Comparative Religion, during which I read a lot, everything from the Bible and St. Augustine to Martin Luther to the Qu'ran and Bhagavad Gita in translation, to the Book of Mormon. And then I discovered Joseph Campbell and The Masks Of God, and I finally found myself.
Thanks for sharing your trip beneath the Vatican! I knew about the catacomb paintings, but I really loved hearing about them firsthand from you!
As a Catholic, I appreciate your review of other Christian churches' beliefs. I've been on a tour of the excavations under the Vatican (the Scavi.) As we got closer to the underside of the High Altar, that is, closer to where St. Peter was buried, there were paintings near some of the graves. These dated back to the time of Jesus (or shortly thereafter, really.) They were from the families of the deceased, asking for prayers for their loved ones, explaining that they were good followers of Jesus, etc. These are the first Roman Catholic foundations of our belief in Purgatory, dating back to the time shortly after Jesus' death. They seem to reference a "place" that one might go before Heaven, but from which one could move on. These writings on the walls beneath the Vatican better support the concept of Purgatory for Catholics today.
Given that as MY foundation......the Supernatural version of Purgatory being chock-full of monsters made little sense. So your explanation that there are other concepts out there helps open the field up a bit for me! I'm still not 100% sold on that being Crowley's true interest. I wonder what Crowley has offered to Samuel......what is that deal!?
The writer's sure are keeping us guessing......Is it Friday yet!?
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I was raised Catholic, but early in my teens went through my Summer of Comparative Religion, during which I read a lot, everything from the Bible and St. Augustine to Martin Luther to the Qu'ran and Bhagavad Gita in translation, to the Book of Mormon. And then I discovered Joseph Campbell and The Masks Of God, and I finally found myself.
Thanks for sharing your trip beneath the Vatican! I knew about the catacomb paintings, but I really loved hearing about them firsthand from you!
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