I GIVE UP.

Jul 19, 2010 17:13

I seriously effing give up on a good FFVII RP. If I find one, it's dead. The live ones either have plots that ignore canon (example: I just found one that takes place a year after AC, but ignores DoC for no reason other than MOAR SEPHIROTH!!!!!!1!!1!!!1!1!!!111!!!!1!), full of nothing but a fuckton of purple prose, or are horrible and a breeding ( Read more... )

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altarii July 19 2010, 22:26:42 UTC
Yes. Yes it is, upsetting as it is.
I gave up shortly after running into my first whore!cutter!Cloud surrounded by a kajillion OCs wanting in his pants.

You could try starting one and hope to attract some good rpers?

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higenshi July 19 2010, 22:28:15 UTC
I'd try starting one, but... I'm afraid of all the Sues and purple prose I tend to encounter. It's daunting. Dx

I dunno, I may muster up the courage. It's just... Usually, I'm skilled enough to find ANYTHING I want RP-wise. Except THIS. Which makes me bang my head against the goddamn wall.

I didn't even realize how bad it was until now. I've been searching a week, too!

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altarii July 19 2010, 22:40:20 UTC
But see, when you start one, you can tell the sues and the purple prose-ers to gtfo your little corner of the internet! It works out~

I've just started tossing my FFVII characters into panfandom places. They tend to be a little better about things... But I guess that defies the point of wanting to play them in a canon setting.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 22:42:43 UTC
Yeah, I'm trying to get my courage up and work on a plot for an FFVII RP. I tend to like Next Gen for that because, well, Cloud and the gang deserve an effing break. They've saved the world three times now! Let them have their retirement!

Yeah. I finally tossed my Sailor Saturn muse into a crossover just to use her since there are no good SMoon RPs, either, and mine's not taking off.

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omwos July 19 2010, 23:04:39 UTC
Man, I gave up on FF7 games. The only one I ever found that was good, alive with a decent cast of canon and OC, I/my character (As player had trouble differentiating between the two) would be the one to get stalked by the master of purple prose, angst, creepiness with a side of my sword is my penis. Why? Because I played a intersexed character and that was apparently some sort of sacred totem for this guy as he would not leave me alone. Sucked even more due to the fact we played the only oc SOLDIERs and I got stuck with him. A lot.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:06:27 UTC
Wow. :/

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omwos July 19 2010, 23:17:46 UTC
Ja. And I even told him to chill a few times, he was starting to be a bit of a creep. I just ended up not going back one day, I was just plain fed up. Staff didn't do anything about it, but I really only asked them once and they said they'd take care of it.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:21:58 UTC
...Woooooooow. :/ Yeah, no thanks. At least my experiences haven't been that bad.

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paperclipchains July 19 2010, 23:23:20 UTC
Why would any good FFVII RP not ignore DoC?

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:29:07 UTC
Because some people actually liked it, regardless of what you think about it. :/

And it's an established part of canon. That's like ignoring the fact that Vincent loved Lucrecia and insta-pairing him with Yuffie just 'cause. It's canon, regardless of whether you like it or not. Not to mention when the only reason you take it out is for MOAR SEPHIROTH and somehow the body of Jenova still exists (even though it was slowly eliminated throughout the original game, save for the head which had been with the True Sephiroth anyway) and all that shit... Yeah. :/

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paperclipchains July 19 2010, 23:41:28 UTC
That's like ignoring the fact that Vincent loved Lucrecia and insta-pairing him with Yuffie just 'cause.

Hahaha, no it's not. Vincent was pining over Lucrecia since well before they added all the stupid compilation stuff.

Not to mention when the only reason you take it out is for MOAR SEPHIROTH and somehow the body of Jenova still exists (even though it was slowly eliminated throughout the original game, save for the head which had been with the True Sephiroth anyway) and all that shit... Yeah. :/

I don't actually see a problem with wanting to trade out the worst entry in the expanded canon for one of the most iconic characters in the original. Makes sense to me - unlike anything that happened in DoC.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:42:48 UTC
Except I've seen people do it. And also, when the ONLY reason you do it is 'cause you have a boner for Sephiroth annoys me. :/ I like Sephiroth, too, but he's getting overrated and overused.

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milksake July 19 2010, 23:32:32 UTC
I'm the chat-admin for an FFVIIRP that was once an active and happy place.

And then a sue ruined and now everything is hopeless.

I roleplay Shotgun, Knife, and Elena, though, if you ever want a one-on-one partner. The lack of FFVII is shameful. orz.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:43:02 UTC
I tend to avoid 1x1s. One too many bad experiences.

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milksake July 20 2010, 06:04:01 UTC
I know the experiance. *patpat*

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leaute July 19 2010, 23:44:26 UTC
I understand your frustration, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with not acknowledging a part of the Compilation that you don't like in RP in favor of something you do. I admit that DoC is canon and part of the story whether I like it or not, but I quite frankly hated it and the characters they introduced in it. Therefore, if I created an FFVII RP, which is to be a happy pretendy fun time for me, I might also be inclined to disregard it as I was typing up a plot and setting. It's just different strokes for different folks in that case. Like I said, I do understand your frustration in not being able to find what you're looking for, though. There are a lot of casts in panfandom games, but I haven't seen a purely FFVII RP in some time.

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higenshi July 19 2010, 23:53:01 UTC
Then it should be marked as, well, an AU instead of Canon. :/ Because that's what it is.

I, for one, love Rosso the Crimson and Nero the Sable and Weiss the Immaculate. Especially Rosso. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I like the psychotic uberbitch with bloodlust. The thing that's WRONG is marking anything that scraps DoC and replaces it with Sephiroth Redux 320927986359694656374856875785 and calling it canon.

Granted, I for one am sick of Seph ALWAYS being the villain. Get some new material. :/

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leaute July 20 2010, 00:05:32 UTC
Probably. Or at least specify early on that it's adherent to canon in all ways except for DoC. That way you don't get people going "AU! That means I can make Tifa a hooker har har!" or something.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks. I don't look down on people who liked DoC; I couldn't stand it, but that doesn't put me in a position of moral superiority or anything. At any rate, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think slapping it purely as AU would work either. Because it's adherent to all but one entry in the Compilation. If something could be marked as 'Canon in all ways but DoC!", that would probably be best. XD

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higenshi July 20 2010, 00:08:17 UTC
But... Isn't that still technically AU? AU doesn't mean purely completely different. :/ *Primarily an AU writer.* Which, while yes, it follows canon TO A POINT AND THEN VEERS OFF... ...It... Still isn't purely canon and shouldn't be marketed as such. It can easily be marked, "AU after this point."

Not to mention how overused Seph is getting. Why is he ALWAYS the goddamn villain?

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