Guantanemo bay part II and initial Obama action impressions

[aurordice]

I posted once a while ago on my Gitmo impressions, but I'm posting again now that Obama signed the executive orders

Comments

[zomgjess]

Whoa you're all political today.

I don't know enough about his plans to have an intelligent opinion but in theory I like the move. Gitmo has been a symbol for torture and removing it is a sign he's serious about restoring our rep and our integrity.

[aurordice]

I'm going to have a political weekend. Just haven't picked the next topic yet. But it might be the differences between liberals and conservatives.

To me, Gitmo could have worked as a place to house prisoners. If they hadn't committed torture there and elsewhere. Open, above-board treatment would likely have elicited very little anger in the international and domestic community.

[zomgjess]

Yeah it's a symbol of American corruption. It shows we're starting a new slate and we're serious about handling things with integrity.

I really liked the bit about human rights in his speech.

[alwaysholly]

My problem with Gitmo has always been the fact that there are more then likely many innocent men put there. Uh the secrecy behind it of course and the torture that is most likely to have been used.

So yeah I am pretty much in agreement.

[aurordice]

See my response to Jess, lol

[rell121]

I'm glad that Obama is taking measures to stop torture. What an embarrasment that's been for our country. I do however hope that he finds a way to determine which prisoners are a threat to society and I don't believe that those prisoners should be turned loose.

[aurordice]

Oh, I don't think for a minute we should just let KSM and the other truly guilty ones go. Just unplug them and keep them away from anyone who matters.

[taperoo2k]

There's a few Al Queada members in the US federal prison system already (some have been there for a number of years), i can't see why Bush needed gitmo for other than as a cover for torture and "Hey look i'm catching terrorists and keeping America safe". Those men should be tried in the US, otherwise it's a mockery of everything the US was founded on. Though you could say that about the Bush years come to think of it.

As for the family planning stuff, forget the abortion side of it for a moment. The most important issue there is the use of condoms and the role that can play in slowing down the spread of HIV in Africa and other places.
My view has always been that people should be given access to all the information in regards to safe sex and abortions, then it's upto individuals to make choices based on what they think is right for them.

[aurordice]

I think empirical evidence has shown that your approach is the most effective. However, some do need to put aside religious objections :/

[mad_tenshi]

Don't get me started on Guantanamo. Those soldiers and those you told them to do it should be brought to court. I am glad that Obama is going to change it. GO-Obama!

[aurordice]

Please, get started, fire away :D