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arthur_sc_king November 24 2010, 21:03:00 UTC
I saw the intern's original video on YouTube. (Videos are blocked at my work; is this her original, or is this a followup?) I hope her university and the others involved get, at least, a stern talking to! How pathetic?

Last I heard, it was going to be carried by the local Fox station. Did it make it that far?

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shesfearless November 24 2010, 21:33:30 UTC
I'm not sure if this is the original or follow up. It was posted two days ago if that helps.

Her university seems really out of line for "investigating" her disability in order to retroactively claim her to be inept for the internship in question.

I don't know if the media has picked this up or not but I hope they do.

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kisekileia November 24 2010, 21:18:34 UTC
She should take this to the courts. I wish I could help financially, but I have no income myself due partly to misbehaviour by my university.

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shesfearless November 24 2010, 21:31:29 UTC
I agree. This situation really highlights the ignorance about ASD and the refusal of people to realize what it means to include the word spectrum in the name.

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kisekileia November 24 2010, 21:37:00 UTC
It also highlights the fact that revealing an ASD diagnosis makes it easy to abuse us--people can claim that our social perception is inaccurate due to being autistic, and thus that we did not perceive an abusive/bullying/unethical situation correctly. That's one of the reasons why I disclose my AS much less widely than my ADHD.

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shesfearless November 24 2010, 21:59:06 UTC
Oh yes, which is why I have not revealed it to my university and don't plan to do so with future employers. My husband doesn't understand my hesitance to reveal my diagnosis, because he thinks it'll help people understand and accommodate me. I know all too well how ignorant people are when it comes to ASD and disability, in general.

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old_cutter_john November 24 2010, 21:24:14 UTC
Here's the comment I posted to her on YouTube (it's hard to fit everything into five hundred characters):

"I'm a 63-three-year-old autistic who had a 25-year career in the computer industry. Here's the harsh reality of your situation:

"Abuse pervades special education: almost all the old-timers are abusive. The Disability Services Department will find that you're unfit for an internship because you are. You're unfit in that you don't have the sense to keep the secret; or your priorities are skewed, relative to theirs

"I would have done what you did. Our kind can't do otherwise."

Here in Las Vegas, we have one o' them special education teachers scheduled to go on trial for felony child abuse in January. She's been on the loose far too long: she did the crimes like four years ago.

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shesfearless November 24 2010, 21:29:25 UTC
Great comment. My classmate, who may also be on the spectrum, and I were discussing how we'll probably be asked to be unethical at some point in our careers as chemists. It's unfortunate and we're not sure how we're going to handle it, but it's definitely a problem.

I really hope this situation ends correctly but I have no faith in the system to do the right thing. Maybe the ACLU can get involved and smack some people around.

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idiotgrrl November 25 2010, 03:00:06 UTC
as a bookkeeper I was once asked to sign off on some petty chiseling. I thought it over and then told them I was quitting. (I'd only been there a bit more than a month.) The office manager was totally dumbfounded. "Do you mean you'd quit your job over every minor disagreement with management?" she demanded.

My next job was with the University of New Mexico, where I stayed for years.

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kengr November 25 2010, 05:51:15 UTC
"Do you mean you'd quit your job over every minor disagreement with management?"

"No, I'll quit my job rather than be an accomplice to a crime."

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adawnrae November 25 2010, 00:20:53 UTC
Ye gods, that is just horrifying. This young lady should absolutely go to the media, to disability advocates, to anyone who will listen. It certainly sounds like she has nothing to lose, as it is obvious that her university is doing all it can to marginalize her. If she takes this public, perhaps a school with higher standards will recognize the value of someone who knows the right thing to do, both morally and legally, and offer her a place in their program to complete her education. Or maybe I am just being overly optimistic...

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shesfearless November 25 2010, 01:13:45 UTC
I wish. I just hope this gets attention and she gets help in sorting her life out since the university seems determined to make her miserable for behaving ethically.

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adawnrae November 25 2010, 09:34:48 UTC
Yes, I suspect I am being too optimistic, knowing how common cruel and unethical behavior is. Even so, occasionally the world rewards the good, and I hope this is one of those times.

Students in general, and special needs students specifically, need more people like this young lady going into education.

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shesfearless November 25 2010, 15:06:00 UTC
Seriously. It's horrible to be asked if you're just perceiving things wrong- my husband pulls this shit occasionally. Done in this setting I would definitely agree that it's discriminatory.

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