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arathian October 17 2009, 07:40:32 UTC
I know what's to blame. Same shit that almost always is in these siutations. LEAVE THE FUCKING KIDS ALONE AND MAYBE THEY WON'T KILL YOUR ASS FOR IT.

Now it may not be the reason here(I didn't read the article much as these things tend to piss me off) but more often than not it's someone who already has shit hard pushed until they snap. It almost always is. Why don't people wise the FUCK UP!? Why don't they teach in schools that not only is it an asshole thing to do to harass someone constantly(pretty sure it's also fucking illegal) but there's also a decent chance they could drive the person insane and decide that they'd look better with a hole in their head.

I almost wonder if this is some sort of natural culling of assholes and morons. Darwin award winners and all that, the problem is you fuck someone up enough and they attempt to take bloody vengeance that they may lash out at anyone physically about not just the ones who really brought it upon themselves.

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ramsey_sitc October 17 2009, 10:52:25 UTC
*sighs* why are schools so inefficient and stupid?

If you're going to use metal detectors then put them on ALL entrances. Otherwise of COURSE any kid with a weapon will go through one of the entrances without a metal detector. If you're going to be a juvenile detention centre instead of a place of learning at least do it RIGHT!

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embryogirl October 17 2009, 11:10:41 UTC
They say the 16-year-old wasn't a trouble maker, but he was a functioning autistic teenager whose parents worked hard to integrate him into normal activities.

I... don't even see how it's necessary to mention his autism here. He wasn't a trouble maker, so here's another possible explanation. Right.

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arathian October 17 2009, 12:35:28 UTC
Could it be he was fucked up because his parents kept trying to make him "normal"?

It reminds me of a quote from the Constantine movie.

"My parents were normal, they did what any parent would do. They made it worse."

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niyabinghi October 17 2009, 13:18:04 UTC
Ditto that.

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lastres0rt October 17 2009, 14:02:47 UTC
Wasn't there another case recently where a special ed kid was shot / beat up by an officer at school because ... he didn't tuck his shirt in?

Perhaps we ought to question the use of gunfire in a school when the attacker in question "merely" has a knife?

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kisekileia October 17 2009, 14:20:54 UTC
Seriously.

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lemmy_caution October 17 2009, 14:22:24 UTC
"Perhaps we ought to question the use of gunfire in a school when the attacker in question "merely" has a knife?"

My thought too. As someone who doesn't live in the US, this whole thing seems very strange to me. Is this "officer" a police officer or a security guard or just another member of staff? I wonder why the student attacked him but also why he was carrying a gun in a place of learning.

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jrelyoh October 17 2009, 15:56:16 UTC
He was a police officer for the local police. I'm not sure if it's still standard procedure for them to carry a gun at schools.

The way the situation broke down the officer was stabbed in the back by the student and the student went for his gun. They apparently struggled over the gun and the officer shot the student in the process.

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frickkcirf October 17 2009, 14:45:01 UTC
I find it interesting and bizarre that people would freak out over an autistic kid/person stabbing someone and blame the autism... When nuerotypical (well, ya know... I don't exactly think people who randomly off other people are 'typical' but you get the idea) people off each other a decent amount.

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jrelyoh October 17 2009, 15:57:27 UTC
It's pretty sad right now. I was talking to my friend who informed me about this and he was like "they can't blame video game violence for this. Sometimes autistic people don't know right from wrong." I just stopped talking to him at that point because I felt that right now there is no reasoning with him.

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kisekileia October 17 2009, 23:43:24 UTC
Actually, the scientific studies prove rather decisively that autistic--yes, autistic, not just Asperger's--kids are capable of the level of moral reasoning one would expect for their verbal mental age, even if their theory of mind is seriously lacking. Not all aspects of morality have been examined yet, but it's clear that autistic kids can identify harming people as bad and distinguish between moral rules and social conventions as well as NT kids with similar verbal skills. These findings are in spite of the fact that the researchers began hypothesizing that autistic kids' moral judgment would be seriously impaired, particularly if their theory of mind was also seriously impaired. I just handed in a paper on this. Feel free to pass the information along to your friend :).

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