being PC in daily life

Sep 26, 2011 23:27

I tend to find people who go out of their way to be PC in daily life extremely tiresome and annoying as all hell. Being PC in general is just a crock of steaming shit in my opinion, but that's me ( Read more... )

there goes my faith in humanity again

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xhallucinationx September 27 2011, 06:35:57 UTC
I think you're way off here. Being "pc" isn't about being morally superior. It's about not being rude and not hurting people on purpose.

I find that when someone uses the term PC it's a sign I should avoid them, because they're likely a bit of a douche.

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 06:44:57 UTC
Okay I responded to crassy, but this is generally the definition of PCness that I am familiar with, taken from Wikipedia:

Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent.

I bolded the 'excessive extent' part cuz mainly that's where I start getting a little eye-rolly.

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xhallucinationx September 27 2011, 06:54:07 UTC
I don't see how that is relevant to what I said. I am quite clear of the definition.

I think it's very difficult to cross into "excessive" not-being-rude. People who complain about others being PC are complaining that their right to say absolutely anything they want without consequences is deemed less important than basic decency.

Now, I do think that it's possible to say something contentious, disagreeable, and possibly hurtful in a respectful and thoughtful way. However, nothing that I can think of as "political correctness" falls into that category. It basically means "don't use hateful epithets or pejoratives".

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 07:07:52 UTC
Yeah, I guess you have a pretty valid point there. I mean, I've not seen anyone IRL pass into what you called excessive not being rude, but I've seen it on the internet a buttload of times. If I could point out specific areas, I totally would but alas, I can't find any at the moment. Also I am not really looking for any, lol.

I guess the best example I can think of right off the bat had something to do with a girl who identified as male, but had not begun taking testosterone shots, had no plans to get a mastectomy, you get the idea. She was what she referred to as a 'female-bodied male.' So I was like, 'ok, you're a girl then?' And she insisted that she was a 'female-bodied male'.

Maybe that's not being PC, though.

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crassy September 27 2011, 06:36:06 UTC
Define 'PC'.

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 06:42:46 UTC
Ganked from Wikipedia, cuz they say it better than I can:

Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent.

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crassy September 27 2011, 06:44:19 UTC
Oh dear.

I am aware what the term means in general. I am asking what YOU define as PC.

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 06:45:21 UTC
I define being PC as pretty much what I copy and pasted to you.

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serenefish September 27 2011, 06:45:26 UTC
To the extent that that term has real-world non-boogeyman meaning, it's just something like "not being an asshole, and being considerate of other people's feelings." So, I react positively to that.

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 06:47:44 UTC
I'm definitely not the type of person who will sit there and use racial slurs and then be like

WATS WRONG GUYSE Y U SO MAD

I'm more or less talking about the kind of people who looooove to split hairs and argue about the context of every word in someone's sentence. Mostly, I find people like that on the internet.

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dewdropsonrosa September 27 2011, 07:17:00 UTC
The social justice community organizes online. You'll just have to deal.

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hr0nk September 27 2011, 07:27:44 UTC

hr0nk September 27 2011, 06:51:16 UTC
Depending on the situation, I don't being being PC is really that bad. Most people who try to censor what others say merely lack the tact to do it in a non-offensive way, or they are so uppity and in your face about it that people don't respect their opinion because they think they're too forceful with them. You can totally be PC and not up people's butts about whatever you are PC about ( ... )

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hr0nk September 27 2011, 06:55:21 UTC
I don't think being PC is that bad*

Whoa, wordy and missing pieces. This is a mess. I shouldn't respond while writing papers for organic chem

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hahahabye September 27 2011, 07:01:13 UTC
See, I guess then, that your definition of being PC is what I find obnoxious. Not saying it's wrong, of course, I mean, you go on wit'cho bad self... but personally, I find it tiresome.

I guess the reason I think that way is because the word 'rape' is used very casually in the gaming word nowadays, and most (read: like a GIANT HUGE CHUNK, lol quantities...) understand that. So while yes, I do use the word in a gaming environment, I wouldn't go out with my girlfriends (whether or not I had any prior knowledge as to whether or not they'd been sexually assaulted) I'd avoid the word altogether, primarily because I know they don't game, and using that word in a gaming-context would probably not go down very well with them, no matter what I was talking about.

I tend to side with the whole 'There's a time and place for everything' mindset.

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hr0nk September 27 2011, 07:06:40 UTC
I don't really understand what your query is, then. It sounds like you either don't actually understand the "time and a place" mindset.

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spicytoys September 27 2011, 06:54:24 UTC
I've never been bothered by people being PC.

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