being PC in daily life

[hahahabye]

I tend to find people who go out of their way to be PC in daily life extremely tiresome and annoying as all hell. Being PC in general is just a crock of steaming shit in my opinion, but that's me

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[xhallucinationx]

I think you're way off here. Being "pc" isn't about being morally superior. It's about not being rude and not hurting people on purpose.

I find that when someone uses the term PC it's a sign I should avoid them, because they're likely a bit of a douche.

[hahahabye]

Okay I responded to crassy, but this is generally the definition of PCness that I am familiar with, taken from Wikipedia:

Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent.

I bolded the 'excessive extent' part cuz mainly that's where I start getting a little eye-rolly.

[xhallucinationx]

I don't see how that is relevant to what I said. I am quite clear of the definition.

I think it's very difficult to cross into "excessive" not-being-rude. People who complain about others being PC are complaining that their right to say absolutely anything they want without consequences is deemed less important than basic decency.

Now, I do think that it's possible to say something contentious, disagreeable, and possibly hurtful in a respectful and thoughtful way. However, nothing that I can think of as "political correctness" falls into that category. It basically means "don't use hateful epithets or pejoratives".

[hahahabye]

Yeah, I guess you have a pretty valid point there. I mean, I've not seen anyone IRL pass into what you called excessive not being rude, but I've seen it on the internet a buttload of times. If I could point out specific areas, I totally would but alas, I can't find any at the moment. Also I am not really looking for any, lol.

I guess the best example I can think of right off the bat had something to do with a girl who identified as male, but had not begun taking testosterone shots, had no plans to get a mastectomy, you get the idea. She was what she referred to as a 'female-bodied male.' So I was like, 'ok, you're a girl then?' And she insisted that she was a 'female-bodied male'.

Maybe that's not being PC, though.

[crassy]

No, that is NOT being PC. He identified as a male and as such you should have recognised that and used the proper address for him. Just because he hadn't gone through the hormone therapy or had surgery does not mean that he did not identify as male.

AFAIC, if you actually said 'ok, you're a girl then?' you were really just being a cunt in this situation.

[spicytoys]

This.

[hahahabye]

Well, I certainly did not mean to be a cunt. My bad.

[aureate_chic]

Please tell me she's on your list. I've been watching her for some time now tbh.

[xhallucinationx]

If you've seen it soooooooooo many times, back it up. Evidence or gtfo.

But see, there is a difference in that example. Having a thought-of-as-girl body is different than feeling like a girl. It might be a difficult and complicated term for you to understand or wevs, but in this instance your comfort and understanding not the most important thing. Read up on misgendering and dysphoria. That's actually a perfect example of "too PC" by people who can't be arsed out of lazy thinking.

[serenefish]

Perfect example.

With this comment you've shown you have zero understanding of trans issues, yet you brush aside a trans person's point of view because you see it as nitpicky.

I'm not going to go all Trans 101 here, but you have no idea what you're talking about, and probably made that person feel pretty shitty. This is why you should listen to people when they tell you you're being an ass instead of just scoffing, because they probably know better than you do. You just made my point for me.

[hahahabye]

I certainly didn't mean to brush it aside. I wish I could find the whole convo so you could read it, but basically I was trying to clarify because prior to talking to this person, I didn't understand very well how a girl with boobs and a vag could, in her own personal way, be a dude. I certainly understand it more now than I did when I was talking to them. At the time though, I was just like... but you're female, physically.

I completely understand that he/she/whatever is male in all other aspects of their life though.

[hr0nk]

[xhallucinationx]

lmfao this is exactly how I feel

[marijuanakills]

The Ring, I think.

[spicytoys]

He is not "he/she/whatever". He is a "he", because he defines himself as a "he".