I'm really sorry for spamming you, but just wanted to add -I still love Helen when I disregard most of the character things that have happened this season, and only consider the first 3 seasons. I guess I mainly treat this season as a seperate entity, and these characters as different to the characters I've come to love over the last 3 seasons. Because all of them have been ooc to some extent this season.
It really does feel like a separate entity. It doesn't feel like "really them" which is what gave me the idea that it isn't. What if it's not really them, but only Helen's imperfect copy?
There was so much potential, so much they could have done with changes to the timeline etc. They've just kind of carried on as if nothing has changed except for the fact that she's 113 years older.
Ok, I am confused in two ways (by the show, not this fic) - first off, she went into the past, retained the ability to change things, but felt constrained not to by her own timeline? I do not think I've ever once run into that take on time travel before. There's the 'oh noes, if we change stuff IT CHANGES and it might not be good/oh crap we retconned ourselves out of existence" type, and there's the Connie Willis/Pern "Nothing is paradox because it already happened this way, with us there", which is my usual preference/take. What is this weirdness?
Secondly... sure, changing things may make things worse! It also may not. Helen Magnus has never really seemed to have trouble with taking on responsibility, and that's the only real reason not to try - because consequences aren't simple and knowing a future doesn't make them easier, so can you take the idea of changing things when YOU WILL KNOW which changes are your fault versus others. Elsewise it's just like acting in the world in general - you do your best and hope things work out.
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It's way out of character. Seriously. I think they did not think this plot arc through. It was a nifty idea and they ran with it without thinking about how it would fundamentally change everything downstream.
Ah... finally a breath of fresh air for S4!!! They should hire you to write for the show. That being said, maybe this should more properly be the first episode in S5 because it doesn't end on the obligatory cliffhanger. No matter. You wrote it and I adore it!!! Thank goodness, we don't have to wait for AT, DK, & MW to realize there are problems with S4 and fix it because you've already done it for us. MORE, PLEASE
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Ah... finally a breath of fresh air for S4!!! They should hire you to write for the show.
Thank you so much! (I wish they would. It's not entirely out of the question.)
I'm really glad it worked for you. There is so much potential for so many good stories, and this season is just not delivering. It's fixable, and I so wish they would fix it!
Okay. So. I haven't actually seen most of S4 (I saw Chimera, surprisingly, so at least I know what you're talking about there - for the rest I've mostly been reading summaries - are they as much retreads of earlier episodes as that makes them look?). But. I love this. I love the whole concept of this. I love the layers to it, and how Helen it all is. Particularly:
"Helen's perfect little world, where everything is happening according to some secret master plan of yours! Where you have absolute control over everything and even when it hurts like hell it's all yours, no risks, no dealing with other people's agency. Nobody can ever hurt you again because you're not even here. You can just check out. Watson had his drugs, but they never did a number on him like this is doing on you.I love that. That's sharp as knives into who Helen is, into what she might want. I love her mind in this deception trying to warn her, trying to TELL her, I love that she keeps layering her wants and fears over each other until she can't tell which is which
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It really does feel like a separate entity. It doesn't feel like "really them" which is what gave me the idea that it isn't. What if it's not really them, but only Helen's imperfect copy?
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Exactly. It doesn't make sense.
And I'm so glad you enjoyed the story!
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Secondly... sure, changing things may make things worse! It also may not. Helen Magnus has never really seemed to have trouble with taking on responsibility, and that's the only real reason not to try - because consequences aren't simple and knowing a future doesn't make them easier, so can you take the idea of changing things when YOU WILL KNOW which changes are your fault versus others. Elsewise it's just like acting in the world in general - you do your best and hope things work out. ( ... )
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Thank you so much! (I wish they would. It's not entirely out of the question.)
I'm really glad it worked for you. There is so much potential for so many good stories, and this season is just not delivering. It's fixable, and I so wish they would fix it!
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"Helen's perfect little world, where everything is happening according to some secret master plan of yours! Where you have absolute control over everything and even when it hurts like hell it's all yours, no risks, no dealing with other people's agency. Nobody can ever hurt you again because you're not even here. You can just check out. Watson had his drugs, but they never did a number on him like this is doing on you.I love that. That's sharp as knives into who Helen is, into what she might want. I love her mind in this deception trying to warn her, trying to TELL her, I love that she keeps layering her wants and fears over each other until she can't tell which is which ( ... )
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