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solaria December 19 2006, 07:34:38 UTC
Please remember that not all of us are crazy, but that the vocal minority has hijacked the religion (as they do with all religions) and twisted it and advertised it and made it seem crazy crazy hate doom you're all baby killers when it should be just about love. When I can't even feel comfortable going into a church because "OMG! You interpret something differently in the Bible than I do, you heathen!" is all I get, and the fact that so many people just seem so FAKE about their faith, is when I have a problem with the mainstream/organized aspects of Christianity ( ... )

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:26:08 UTC
You have an appropriate icon for everything I post about, don't you? ^-^

Yeah, I know not all Christians are crazed pushers. Heck, some of my best friends on Livejournal are Christians. ;) Mostly I just wanted to complain about a certain brand of Christianity on the radio/TV. And I know some atheists are just as bad as other bad people, but when the song goes out of its way to specify that these two horrible parents were "non-believers" while the nice good people who take her in are virtuous church-goers, it really gets my hackles up.

PS: It occurs to me my usage of the term "glurge" might not have been clear, since it's a word I picked up from Snopes. Here's a definition. I don't hate the Jesus part of Christmas (though I, of course, mostly ignore it), it's the Jesus glurge that drives me up a wall.

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solaria December 20 2006, 06:33:48 UTC
Hey look I'm on LJ at the same time as youuuu ( ... )

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:43:45 UTC
Fruits Basket doesn't count, because she's not trying to make you feel a certain way to teach you a stupid lesson involving religion and patriotism and cardboard cutouts of people, though. She's just writing an incredibly moving story about characters with virtues and flaws who also happen to be very pretty. ^-^

If you really want to have fun with your religion sometime, watch the new version (circa 2000 or so) of Jesus Christ Superstar. Judas is moping because his lover Jesus has dumped him for some ho named Mary, and Jesus spends the entire time being emo while Simon prances around being the cutest gay militant zealot ever. Oh, and Caiaphas and co. borrowed their costumes from the Matrix and their evil expressions from Lazy Town's Robbie Rotten. It's very moving.

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arkadia December 19 2006, 08:04:56 UTC
I have no comment on religion, but I will say this...DON'T LISTEN TO COUNTRY!!! BOOOOOOO!!!!

Yes, I know that was extremely insightful, but if I survived in hickville for 7 years and still don't listen to country, than so can you.

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:29:08 UTC
Yes, well... Some of it's not so bad. I actually kind of like some of the melodies; it's the subject matter that I often have a problem with.

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solaria December 20 2006, 06:51:10 UTC
EWWW NO. ALL COUNTRY IS BAD.

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:52:50 UTC
Even the Dixie Chicks?

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dammity December 19 2006, 16:34:32 UTC
I feel you. The other day Ian and I were having this discussion...part of me feels it's quite arrogant to say "Merry Christmas" to people, assuming they celebrate Christmas, but part of me knows they mean well and just aren't aware of what they're saying, or are just ignorant, take your pick. I also try to pick out the least Christmas-y holiday cards and wrapping paper. Now, this probably stemmed from the fact that I never celebrated Christmas until a few years ago when I met Ian; and as a child growing up in a town where everyone assumed you celebrated Christmas, I was singled out for not celebrating it. I even had to make different arts and crafts than the other kids :-(.

But I digress. Isn't there so much more we could be worrying about than forcing Wal Mart employees to say "Merry Christmas"? By the way, they never say anything else now! Tis the season...

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:34:05 UTC
But don't you know Christians are the majority in this country and ought to be treated like it? Yeah, I hate Bill O'Reilly too.

By the way, thank you for the card! And when did you and Ian get shared return-address labels? ^-^

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dammity December 20 2006, 17:05:07 UTC
Since I made them with my computer. We get lazy and thus don't want to write our address on bills and such. Glad you liked the card...it was Hell looking for one that wasn't too Christmas-y, and yet not stupid, for lack of a better word.

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arekuru December 21 2006, 01:19:43 UTC
I appreciate the thought. ^-^

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shadowlily December 19 2006, 21:13:01 UTC
my jew mother's one of those who gets bitchy when people wish her a 'merry christmas'. i wish she'd just take it in the friendly spirit it was given...
i don't celebrate chanukah any more, and christmas doesn't really feel like mine, but i enjoy the kind of pagan ideas of winter and death and rebirth.
if i ever have kids, i'll totally celebrate all of these ^^

the worst of the god-talk, to me, is things like "your father's in heaven now!" uh, no, don't write him into your faith when it wasn't his.
faith and christianity in general, though, i've come to understand a lil more after time in ireland. i appreciate it as a matter of personal faith, though not as a reason to discriminate or hate. ...though i'm pretty sure mister jesus wouldn't have approved of people being hateful over him.

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:49:41 UTC
One of the blogs I read reported a guy storming out of a grocery store after being wished "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas." Apparently the problem is widespread and not confined to religion.

The only problem with celebrating solstice is you don't even get the "consolation decorations" they put out for Chanukah, so you're on your own making a festive cupcake stonehenge or whatever. And when I wish people "happy solstice" at the office, they have no idea what I'm talking about. ::sigh::

I'm not up-to-date on my European religions: has Ireland mostly gotten over the Catholic/Protestant divide then, or did you mostly just hang out with very nice people (never mind, I know you did), or is it just that the Catholic boys are cuter there? ^-^

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shadowlily December 20 2006, 23:32:31 UTC
*sigh* there is no damn pleasing everyone with the specifics, but the spirit should be what matters. grrrr~

omg, i'm totally making a cupcake stonehenge next winter. and hanging candy stars and a toffee moon? and asking everyone at my school/work/whatever to dress in these cotton candy druid robes and chant (along with the office printer, thrumming out the beat)

i think that division was more of an issue in northern ireland. cork was in the republic of ireland, which is almost all catholic.
says my Authentic Cute Irish Catholic Boy:
'I don't know if there is a correlation between creed and cuteness'
^__^

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brandirosek December 20 2006, 03:04:18 UTC
Ugh, that War on Christmas thing is just embarrassing. Throwing a hissy fit & making some poor overworked retail person's day a little more difficult like I keep reading about people doing is not in the spirit of the holiday or Christianity, as far as I'm concerned. Plus it just keeps enforcing the idea that we're all crazy.

I have to admit though, The Little Girl gives me chills. The Christmas Shoes, not so much.

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arekuru December 20 2006, 06:52:13 UTC
You mean you're not? ;)

Good chills, or bad chills? I hear it (The Little Girl) was a number one hit on the country stations back in 2000 (I am apparently behind the times in my offense), so it obviously appealed to somebody.

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brandirosek December 21 2006, 01:42:54 UTC
Good chills, I guess. What can I say, I get overly emotional with a lot of stuff. I think some of it's probably personal too.

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arekuru December 21 2006, 01:44:20 UTC
Fair enough. I once cried at an Applebee's commercial, so we're even. ^-^

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