The way they're writing/portraying Jesse really bothers me. More even than the throw away bullshit back in season whatever with the female detective who was trying to play tough with Michael. Remember her?
I HATED that they made me detest a female character that much. I HATED that their attempts to write her as strong made her seem so pathetic and weak and "bitchy."
I want to love Jesse because he represents some freaking diversity in our All-White-Main-Cast Miami show, but... UGH :-/
He was okay when he blew up the bomber, imo. And his storyline has given the writers good reason to explore the morality of Michael's position (the arc of development between Michael and Maddie over everything has been BRILLIANT. From his confessing to her his doubts about shit, to her calling him on what he was doing, to her recent "whatever" speech which BLEW MY MIND). I just... IDK.
Oh, and he looks REALLY FUCKING GOOD in that sling-like thing. ASDFL;JLAKJFDLK JKL;AJFD KLJ;LJA DFKL;J ;JAIODFJO;IWJEARL;J KLJ;SKLFJDL;KJAFD;IAOWERJFLAK ;JFDL;AAND
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*butting in again*one_more_cherryNovember 23 2010, 09:31:23 UTC
I'm sort of neutral on Det. Paxson, but THIS:
I want to love Jesse because he represents some freaking diversity in our All-White-Main-Cast Miami show, but... UGH :-/I wanted so, so badly to like him when he came on for this reason, among others (I had faith that the writers were smart enough to avoid the pitfalls exhibited by every show that's added a fresh character midrun; oops.). There's SO much they could do with Jesse to set him apart from the pack(have him be a tech guy! Have him be fluent in linguistics that the rest of the gang haven't mastered!), but he's just NOT. The biggest problem the show has with him is that Jesse is Michael with Fiona's rashness and Sam's ladykilling skills, and his existence has resulted in MUCH less Maddie, less Sam, OOC Fi, Sam and Mike and so much character propping. SO much character propping :p
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:///// I liked Paxson. BUT, it's more likely that I like the actress, so I kinda turned a blind eye to the poor writing, because it was rather stilted and awkward and not very good.
Not that every Hispanic person has to be HISPANIC, but they really did miss an opportunity with Jesse. The idea of Jesse is well and good. As you said, good way to challenge Michael's seeming absolute morality and the rightness of his actions. But all of it was done so hamfisted. All of Jesse, in execution, is a wasted opportunity, a wasted storyline.
I remember US Touching Evil. And I remember JDo from it. This was also back when I adored Vera Farmiga. JDo does have a good talent for making the ridic seem believeable.
:///// I liked Paxson. BUT, it's more likely that I like the actress, so I kinda turned a blind eye to the poor writing, because it was rather stilted and awkward and not very good.
I wanted her to be as much of a genuine challenge to him as some of the male characters have been, you know? Like Jason Bly. I wanted her position as a representative of law & order to genuinely place Michael's work in question -- you know? And I wanted to really FEEL that these two characters were in conflict, and neither was entirely wrong or right.
Sometimes I'm not sure whether I'm being too nitpicky. Like, maybe I'm judging Paxon too harshly because she's female? But why COULDN'T she have been a female as complex and challenging as Bly?
Why couldn't she have been played by an older actress with some real oomph and just... ((flails hands around wildly in frustration))((sighs))
Not that every Hispanic person has to be HISPANIC, but they really did miss an opportunity with Jesse. The idea of Jesse is well and good. As you said, good way to challenge
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The fact that the ratings are taking a long walk off a short pier says a lot about how much the audience is willing to tolerate Jesse - which is not at all. I have such an urge to meta about how spectacular the writer-fail has been on Jesse.
There's a rumor going around that the 'We brought CB in to spell JDo' thing is bullshit, and Matt Nix wrote him into the show because he became enamored of his talents after he saw him for The Good Guys. So...yeah. Makes a lot of sense.
It really is a very classy awesome fuck you. I'm still pissed, but at least I'm pissed at CBS. Not that I was ever really pissed at the show peeps themselves, because the cast, especially, made their angry voices heard when all this first went down, so I know they weren't cool with it either. But still, it's heartbreaking. And worse of all, how many people do not see the inherent sexism. Blah blah, well the execs didn't MEAN to, blah blah it's just budget cuts bullshit bullshit. AJ Cook still got fired and Paget is still leaving at the end of the season (PLEASE DEAR GOD LET THAT STATUS CHANGE BY THEN). We're still losing two awesome women and now we're left with the same penis party as we always do.
Urgh. Lemme cut myself off before I get too RABBLE RABBLE.
Re: Seeker. URGH RITE??? I really really want to rewatch, but URGH. And also I really suck for dropping our Seeker conversation in your journal. LET'S START ANOTHER ONE SHALL WE.
And also I really suck for dropping our Seeker conversation in your journal. LET'S START ANOTHER ONE SHALL WE.
OKAY LET'S. I just figured life was being a busy thing or the threads had gotten buried - that happens to me all the danged time, adn then three weeks later I'm like FUCK SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. Ha.
... I so want to watch it again. WAH. Hell, I even know which eps I want to watch (well, besides all of them, anyhow, there are a couple I really need to see again), but WAH FLAIL. Flail flail FLAIL AND FLAIL. I could flail forever.
re: JJ's departure ep. I'd like to know what you think of it!
then three weeks later I'm like FUCK SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT'S ME. ALL THE TIME. If I don't reply right away, sometimes I think I've already replied, and then I'd be like WOE, and then I realize I was the one who dropped the convo. -_-
WAH FOREVER. Yeah I know what eps I wanna rewatch, but I wanna rewatch everything from the very beginning. But every time it's like WHARLGARBL SADNESS
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I HATED that they made me detest a female character that much. I HATED that their attempts to write her as strong made her seem so pathetic and weak and "bitchy."
I want to love Jesse because he represents some freaking diversity in our All-White-Main-Cast Miami show, but... UGH :-/
He was okay when he blew up the bomber, imo. And his storyline has given the writers good reason to explore the morality of Michael's position (the arc of development between Michael and Maddie over everything has been BRILLIANT. From his confessing to her his doubts about shit, to her calling him on what he was doing, to her recent "whatever" speech which BLEW MY MIND). I just... IDK.
Oh, and he looks REALLY FUCKING GOOD in that sling-like thing. ASDFL;JLAKJFDLK JKL;AJFD KLJ;LJA DFKL;J ;JAIODFJO;IWJEARL;J KLJ;SKLFJDL;KJAFD;IAOWERJFLAK ;JFDL;AAND ( ... )
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I want to love Jesse because he represents some freaking diversity in our All-White-Main-Cast Miami show, but... UGH :-/I wanted so, so badly to like him when he came on for this reason, among others (I had faith that the writers were smart enough to avoid the pitfalls exhibited by every show that's added a fresh character midrun; oops.). There's SO much they could do with Jesse to set him apart from the pack(have him be a tech guy! Have him be fluent in linguistics that the rest of the gang haven't mastered!), but he's just NOT. The biggest problem the show has with him is that Jesse is Michael with Fiona's rashness and Sam's ladykilling skills, and his existence has resulted in MUCH less Maddie, less Sam, OOC Fi, Sam and Mike and so much character propping. SO much character propping :p ( ... )
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Not that every Hispanic person has to be HISPANIC, but they really did miss an opportunity with Jesse. The idea of Jesse is well and good. As you said, good way to challenge Michael's seeming absolute morality and the rightness of his actions. But all of it was done so hamfisted. All of Jesse, in execution, is a wasted opportunity, a wasted storyline.
I remember US Touching Evil. And I remember JDo from it. This was also back when I adored Vera Farmiga. JDo does have a good talent for making the ridic seem believeable.
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I wanted her to be as much of a genuine challenge to him as some of the male characters have been, you know? Like Jason Bly. I wanted her position as a representative of law & order to genuinely place Michael's work in question -- you know? And I wanted to really FEEL that these two characters were in conflict, and neither was entirely wrong or right.
Sometimes I'm not sure whether I'm being too nitpicky. Like, maybe I'm judging Paxon too harshly because she's female? But why COULDN'T she have been a female as complex and challenging as Bly?
Why couldn't she have been played by an older actress with some real oomph and just... ((flails hands around wildly in frustration))((sighs))
Not that every Hispanic person has to be HISPANIC, but they really did miss an opportunity with Jesse. The idea of Jesse is well and good. As you said, good way to challenge ( ... )
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There's a rumor going around that the 'We brought CB in to spell JDo' thing is bullshit, and Matt Nix wrote him into the show because he became enamored of his talents after he saw him for The Good Guys. So...yeah. Makes a lot of sense.
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WHAT TALENTS. I DON'T SEE ANY FUCKING TALENT.
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BLACK HOLE OF SUCK <3
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As far as Seeker goes... GDI I hate it when I love things so much that sometimes I can't even bring myself to watch them. ;_;
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Urgh. Lemme cut myself off before I get too RABBLE RABBLE.
Re: Seeker. URGH RITE??? I really really want to rewatch, but URGH. And also I really suck for dropping our Seeker conversation in your journal. LET'S START ANOTHER ONE SHALL WE.
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I haz the ep now, but I haven't watched it yet.
And also I really suck for dropping our Seeker conversation in your journal. LET'S START ANOTHER ONE SHALL WE.
OKAY LET'S. I just figured life was being a busy thing or the threads had gotten buried - that happens to me all the danged time, adn then three weeks later I'm like FUCK SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. Ha.
... I so want to watch it again. WAH. Hell, I even know which eps I want to watch (well, besides all of them, anyhow, there are a couple I really need to see again), but WAH FLAIL. Flail flail FLAIL AND FLAIL. I could flail forever.
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re: JJ's departure ep. I'd like to know what you think of it!
then three weeks later I'm like FUCK SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT'S ME. ALL THE TIME. If I don't reply right away, sometimes I think I've already replied, and then I'd be like WOE, and then I realize I was the one who dropped the convo. -_-
WAH FOREVER. Yeah I know what eps I wanna rewatch, but I wanna rewatch everything from the very beginning. But every time it's like WHARLGARBL SADNESS
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