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bart_calendar December 3 2013, 12:40:15 UTC
It's astounding how wrong that guy was about the future of the web.

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 13:38:16 UTC
Yeah, but I remember a lot of people being very wrong at the time.

I still remember an awful lot of people talking about how Wikipedia was never going to catch on too!

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makyo December 3 2013, 14:27:20 UTC
I'm not sure I can entirely blame him. I grew up during the 1980s home computer explosion, when we were constantly being told that lots of things were about to change unimaginably because very soon now everyone would have, say, a VIC-20. In particular, traditional lessons would be a thing of the past, with everyone learning from carefully-tailored educational software. A lot of this has clearly now come to pass, but after fifteen years of that kind of hype not remotely coming true, I think we can forgive 1995 Cliff Stoll for being sceptical.

He's quite an interesting chap, actually. His book The Cuckoo's Egg was a very readable account of his successful attempt to catch some East German students who were hacking into the computer he was in charge of. (I've also read most of Silicon Snake Oil but I didn't think it was quite as good.)

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 14:32:08 UTC
Oh yes, I don't blame him. And he's right that a CD-ROM doesn't replace a teacher. And neither does Wikipedia. But it does replace a lot of basic "looking things up", and gives those that need academic research a lot of pointers as to where to start their research.

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avva December 3 2013, 12:54:55 UTC
Ha, I looked up the toast sandwich recipe in the 1861 book mentioned on Wikipedia (it's free on Google Books and quite fascinating), and what the Wikipedia article doesn't mention is that it's found in the "Invalid Cookery" chapter. It's a dish especially useful when nursing invalids, apparently - together with Nourishing Beef Tea, Egg Wine, Stewed Rabbits in Milk and Eel Broth, among others.

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 13:20:38 UTC
Aaah, that is interesting. Makes sense, as it'll be about as mild as you can get!

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randomchris December 3 2013, 13:53:28 UTC
It certainly doesn't sound like valid cookery to me.

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simont December 3 2013, 14:07:50 UTC
"Invalid Cookery" surely belongs in a companion article to the "writers' error messages" link above...

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xenophanean December 3 2013, 14:10:09 UTC
Wonder if the differences in men and women's brains are purely natural, or influenced by roles played in society?

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 14:14:32 UTC
I'd be astounded if it wasn't both.

There's going to be a bunch of self-reinforcing systems in play here, where hormones influence different people in different ways, and the mass of people moving in one direction carries individuals with it, and that then self-perpetuates.

(And we know that what you do influences your brain structure)

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xenophanean December 3 2013, 15:15:08 UTC
It's an important question. If male/female brains just *are* wired in certain ways, it could validly be used as an excuse for why certain jobs have more of one or other of the genders. If not, that reasoning is circular.

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 15:25:51 UTC
I agree that it's an imporyant question.

Just not one that anyone has an answer to, or much prospect of finding one in the near future.

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rhythmaning December 3 2013, 18:26:32 UTC
Thanks for the link! :)

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rhythmaning December 3 2013, 18:28:20 UTC
I'm glad the tram made it to Haymarket.

I'm trying to imagine the looks of panic on oh, just about everyone associated with it if, in some unforeseen circumstances, it had failed to do so...!

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andrewducker December 3 2013, 18:33:25 UTC
Oh yes :->

That's the problem with transparency/testing in public, people can see all the things that go wrong...

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