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chess April 18 2012, 11:09:34 UTC
Oh great, does that mean I can blame my Aspergers' Syndrome for the way I acquire every available respiritory disease in my environment then?

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andrewducker April 18 2012, 11:13:08 UTC
Or your lungs are the cause of your Aspergers' :->

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marrog April 18 2012, 22:54:48 UTC
Being vulnerable to certain things doesn't necessarily mean you have a weak immune system. I'm very prone to specific varieties of upper-respiratory infections but I otherwise have the constitution of an ox - haven't even had to register with a doctor in years, never mind visit one for anything serious.

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naath April 18 2012, 12:03:35 UTC
501 developers>
Also to keep in mind: by contributing to an office-culture of working long hours and having-no-life you are contributing to the disadvantage suffered by those who no option but to have an outside-the-office life (because management tend to feel that "works longer hours" means "is better at job" and that means that people unwilling/unable to work long hours are much less likely to get raises, promotions, or even jobs). Plus by doing the work of three people you are keeping two people out of a job (supposing people would be hired rather than the work going undone).

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channelpenguin April 18 2012, 12:38:11 UTC
see, I *envy* those to whom it is their life (no matter what the job is!)

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naath April 18 2012, 12:50:22 UTC
I envy people who are so very wealthy that they needn't concern themselves with looking after their house, raising their children, managing their garden, preparing food...

I envy people who have jobs that they love and are happy spending time on...

I don't envy people who spend their whole lives at work though. I have too many hobbies to want to do that - I want to spend time running, and knitting, and playing at being in the 16th century.

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channelpenguin April 18 2012, 13:40:34 UTC
What I meant, you put FAR better: I envy people who have jobs that they love and are happy spending time on...I do NOT envy the "so very wealthy". With nothing you *have* to you better hope to have something you *really want* (see aforemetioned people with jobs they love) to do.... or what's the point to life ( ... )

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simont April 18 2012, 13:20:16 UTC
The 501 manifesto reveals an interesting difference of attitude between them and me, in that it lists 'contribute to open source projects' as an aspect of 'allowing your employment to penetrate deeply into your personal life'. I would absolutely disagree: I've always considered myself to be a 'leave on the dot of 5:30' type employee and pushed back against corporate encroachments on my off-time (not just overwork culture but even company social events - I want to be socialising with people I chose, not people HR chose), and yet I'm also a fervent free-software person, and for me the two statements are not contradictory at all.

Partly it's that in my case, it's difficult to argue that my free software activities are some kind of unwholesome overspill from my job, since I was doing them before I even had a job, and when I started applying for jobs one of my major criteria for choosing between them was whether any given job would afford me the time and energy (not to mention freedom from overzealous copyright land-grabs in the contract ( ... )

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andrewducker April 18 2012, 13:46:35 UTC
I'm much the same. I just left this comment on HN:
"I vary on this one. I have a bunch of hobbies, of which coding is one. When I go through a coding phase then I'm not a 501 developer. When I go through a boardgaming phase I am.

In any case, I try not to _work_ more than 40-hours per week, but my play frequently still involves computers."

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channelpenguin April 18 2012, 14:16:16 UTC
WEIRDO!! :-)

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marrog April 18 2012, 23:09:05 UTC
I would guess I spend on average more than twelve hours a day, nearly every day, on my laptop. I write on it, code on it, compose on it, communicate and socialise on it, paint on it, play on it, watch tv on it... there are a few things I enjoy (craft projects, playing instruments, boardgaming) that don't involve a computer, but generally if I'm not actively socialising or doing something deliberate like a dance class or a tabletop RPG, I'm probably sitting on my computer.

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danieldwilliam April 18 2012, 13:36:51 UTC
I second this.

I’m an accountant.

Sometimes I do management accounting and business planning for my employer and sometimes I do it for friends of my lovely wife and sometimes I do it for various clubs I’m involved in.

Sometimes I enjoy it and sometimes I don’t. This doesn’t necessarily depend on whether I’m being paid or volunteering.

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meowpurrr April 18 2012, 13:55:13 UTC
Wind Turbine Makes 1,000 Liters of Clean Water a Day in the Desert

moisture farming! :)

all we need now is blue milk.

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