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skreidle April 18 2012, 14:35:17 UTC
andrewducker April 19 2012, 19:52:26 UTC
Thanks for that!

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eatsoylentgreen April 18 2012, 15:47:11 UTC
I'm calling bullcrap on the moisture turbine.

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danieldwilliam April 18 2012, 15:49:02 UTC
Why so?

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andrewducker April 18 2012, 15:55:15 UTC
I really would prefer that, rather than just spouting profanities, people criticised things with facts and logic.

I'm perfectly prepared to believe that some of the things I link to are incorrect, but I'm not so happy to just have people swear at something without giving any reason to take their word over the writer of the original article.

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channelpenguin April 18 2012, 16:39:14 UTC
yeah, I'm with Andy on this - fi the turbine thing is not believable, why? System energy losses? Somebody got some sums for that?

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channelpenguin April 18 2012, 19:43:53 UTC
I initially thought it was a condenser powered by a wind turbine - and that I'd be surprised if they could just about manage to wring enough out of the genny to make good on running the condenser ( ... )

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andrewducker April 18 2012, 21:22:12 UTC
I think you meant to reply to the comment...

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danieldwilliam April 19 2012, 11:04:02 UTC
I am not a meterologist but here is a stab at calculating how much air you would need to chill to get a thousand liters of water and how much you’d have to chill it by ( ... )

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andrewducker April 19 2012, 11:40:17 UTC
If the intake is 1 m square, then the air will need to travel at 70km/h constantly in order to get that much air through.

Interesting discussion here:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3856764
including that they only expect 350L/day in the desert, it's 1000L/day in a temperate climate.

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undeadbydawn April 18 2012, 23:03:44 UTC
Message to application programmers ( ... )

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andrewducker April 19 2012, 08:58:39 UTC
Win8 does it for AppStore apps. But they've clearly decided that they're not going to try and support it for normal apps.

I can understand why they might think that was difficult, as there are thousands of ways of installing a Windows app. But they could have said "We will do unattended/background installs, but only if you follow pattern X." and then people would presumably have shifted over to that pattern.

As it is lots of apps have implemented the functionality themselves. Firefox just started doing it in version 14 by using a background service. Chrome does it by installing silently into the user's profile folder. Not sure how Flash does it, but it's also started.

Definitely a major gap in the functionality.

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