Comments | anamacha: on belonging.

anamacha

on belonging.

May 25, 2006 15:28

I'm almost scared to write. I mean, I work in a call center. There's always the spectre of The Next Call hanging over my head. Thankfully I've been moved to a morning shift (0700 - 1600 for the curious) and that is currently far less busy than my previous 2d shift (that was 1530 - 0030). And I get to see my daughter more now, so it's good all ' ( Read more... )

job, spirit, self

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amaliadubois May 25 2006, 21:30:30 UTC

i can't remember who said it or what the exact words words were but i think it was mother teresa and it went something like: pay attention to those things that move you because thats where you're suposed to be.
my priest asked me what gives me joy and i couldn't answer. he wanted me to list the things that give me joy. it has taken me a long time. but new doors have opened.
what gives you joy? not pleasure...but joy.

anamacha May 26 2006, 02:47:05 UTC

why did it take you so long to make that list?
and what, for you, is the difference between pleasure and joy?

amaliadubois May 26 2006, 11:30:43 UTC

because i really didn't know. i was never happy and felt like something always missing and i went to confession about it because i thought it was a sin to feel this way, that i wasn't thankful etc you know. i didn't expect my priest to say that.
i didn't do art then, now i do. i take time for me now and discover myself and don't think thats wrong whereas before i guess for some reason i thought it was. i would feel guilty..

i think joy is where you feel good about life and being alive and is isn't confined to the moment. pleasure is usually about the moment - like eating a bag of oreos and watching tv. and there can be all kinds of other feeling tied up with pleasure like fear, guilt.. not saying pleasure is bad. just that its the things of joy you list that make a difference.

anamacha May 26 2006, 13:55:44 UTC

ah, so you are religious? does this continue today? Do you find solace in it, and that sense of belonging that I'm talking about?

I think it's pretty much a lost cause for me; since childhood I have had real trouble believing in something I can't see or percieve (not trying to start an argument here; I now percieve divinity in nearly all thigns, especiallyh natural beauty)

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bottomlescup May 25 2006, 21:45:47 UTC

Anam, I know that feeling - I have been thinking the same thing - where do I belong? It could have been me writing what you wrote...isnt that the most precious thing in the world - to belong. Only love makes you belong.

That is one of the things I observed - real love, not the fake social 'I love you'. Real love where you feel welcome and wanted, appreciated, enjoyed, understood...if you disappeared, someone would miss your smile because you are so precious etc. My two cents.

anamacha May 26 2006, 13:57:44 UTC

there are places like that. I've caught glimpses, as I've alluded to. I just have no idea where to find that sort of thing, or how.

bottomlescup May 29 2006, 00:53:44 UTC

By resonance. When you go to the mall, you might see people who actually have what you are looking for - deep friendship, belonging, love, laughter etc - when you see them, if you can be happy for them because you know the value of what they have and how blessed they really are, you can bless them to have more of that which you crave for yourself, and pretend you are them enjoying that belonging vicariously through them...by doing these you will draw this abundance of love towards yourself - and these relationships will come to you effortlessly. Also by watching and enjoying movies or reading books that show these type of relationships - day dreaming playfully about these dreamy relationships - you set resonance for these.

anamacha May 31 2006, 17:06:45 UTC

ah yes ... like sympathetic magic. And adjusting of focus. In so doing, everyone wins.

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stains00 May 25 2006, 21:46:12 UTC

you make too much sense.

we definately belong. you are writing from my own mind???

but I don't think belonging is what matters and yes I have too gotten used to the not and have not let myself belong as well. Well, we are all one and what matters is being. not belonging. your perspective matters. Your ideas your feelings will be a wonderful contribution to others. Just be.

~STAIN

anamacha May 26 2006, 14:01:02 UTC

you honour me. thank you.

I agree with you when you say we are all one and what matters is being. However, I want a way to FEEL that oneness -- historically the way I've done that is through friendship and touch -- physical contact. Neither of those have happened much as of late, and I'm really feeling the absence.

stains00 May 26 2006, 15:53:01 UTC

the hardest thing to do when you are hurt and wanting is to open up and give what you need, but that is exactly what you need to do. Take a moment to find the one who needs as much as you, touch them, so they may touch others. The physical is inconsenquential. The feelings come from within...
~STAIN

wardellen May 25 2006, 22:02:59 UTC

I have to agree with amaliadubois... find your joy, then find a way to incorporate it and be within that joy. Easier said than done, well worth the effort.

_beauty__ May 25 2006, 22:15:21 UTC

I agree with the few others have said, find what gives you joy and go from there. Perhaps even a new perspective is needed to be put on things, try and see things in a different light and maybe they'll become a little clearer.

Either way, you make alot of sense, I on the other hand from this reply am not so sure of. My fingers are moving a little too fast for my brain to keep up tonight :D