Like, "sensitive bundle of nerves," "sweet spot" or "little bud of longing"?
I've started to claim the word 'cunt' a lot more as my own. Oddly enough, it seemed to happen when I delved back into pussy eating.
Ah, there I go with the pussy talk.
Doesn't bother me near as much as it used to, depends on the tone of voice in which the term is used too. Like any sort of term someone would throw out at you -- "whore," "slut" and the like.
"Sweet spot" is not bad. The others make me want to put a paper bag over my head and go lie down, and not in a sexy way.
We have been discussing in my household that possibly we should tone down the frequency with which "Bitch, please" is used in conversation. Probably not good for the baby.
a long answer to a short pollamyhitMay 25 2009, 07:19:36 UTC
This is interesting. and tricky. Personally, i think Cunt is one of those words that has become overwhelmed by its own cultural/societal connotations. That is, if someone calls me a cunt, i'm not offended by the word, so much as by the fact that this person is being misogynistic. they are infering that there is something offensive about a vagina. perhaps they aren't even meaning to be misogynistic - only meaning to insult me. that makes the offense worse. then it becomes a matter of me stewing for the rest of the day on how disgustingly patriarchal and misogynistic we are culturally - to the point we don't even realize it.
on the other hand, maybe that's part of why cunt seems like such a sexy word when it's used in a way that infers pleasure and appreciation. in a society (okay, pretty much the whole world, actually) that still generally speaking is unconsciously or consciously holding a grudge against vaginas, and therefore a grudge against all those who possess vaginas - reading about a man who praises the cunt - recognizes it
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From experience you either find a way to avoid saying it and convey the meaning with the crafty use of ellipses or call a spade a spade.
For Scully I usually stick to clinical terms, for instance she would say clitoris rather than clit, penis rather than cock, stuff like that. My Mulder is more crude and will tend to use more slang words like dick or pussy. (though I personally really dislike the term and wonder if actually cunt would not be more straightforward.
Metaphors are to be handled with caution and must be thoroughly beta tested. Sometimes they work Lydia Bowers' "Pearl diving" and sometimes they don't. "little bud of pleasure tucked away at the front"
And PLEASE, PLEASE, NEVER EVER have Mulder refer to his penis as Mr Happy or Pecker Boy or other various pet names.
Writing decent smut is the hardest thing ever, people have NO idea.
This is a tricky one, because as an insult I'd find it really offensive (I think the only time I've used 'cunt' myself was in a training roleplay when I was deliberately trying to piss off the trainee, and oh my did it work), but as amyhit said, that's probably more because of the cultural connotation of it as being a horrible, misogynistic word. I'd feel the same about being called 'whore'.
In the context of fanfic (or other literature) it's really context-dependent. Sometimes it's sexy and sometimes it just doesn't work, but I'm not sure I could pin down why.
I think I'd rather be called a 'whore' than a 'cunt'. as an insult I find it terribly offensive.
but I agree with you where fics are concerned, it is really context dependent. It really depends which level of 'pornage' you're trying to achieve. Still, I think the term 'cunt' should be used parsimoniously. Iolokus for instance in all its 500 pages of outrageousness uses the term only a couple of times and one of them is an insult. The other is "exquisite cunt" which in the context worked really well, I thought.
I think it is one of those words where it will really depends on the reader's sensibilities, and if you use it you have to take the risk that it will pull some people right out of your story.
i certainly agree that is it dependent on the context of the fic. in general, as a term, i approve of it above most of the others, but in a fic with the wrong tone, boy! not good.
for me, there is something at once passionate yet intellectual about the use of it in a character's thought or speech. if the story has so far been light and frivolous and truly PWP in the sense that the characters are being written as smutty (and probably frivolous) versions of themselves, and suddenly the word cunt in used, that can be very unpleasant - at least i find. i imagine it must be something equivalent to turning dead sober in the middle of a drunken one night stand. (yes, i did say imagine *cough
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Leigh: It just rolls off the tongue. Um. I mean. FFFFF SCORE. let me share a similiar anecdote made awfully clumsy with translation: my friend was talking with some other girls, med students, and the following exchange took place: girl a: the, uh... the... girl b: penis? girl a: YES! you took it right out of my mouth! [<- idiom meaning "this was exactly what i wanted to say but i couldn't find the words and/or you beat me to it
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I've started to claim the word 'cunt' a lot more as my own. Oddly enough, it seemed to happen when I delved back into pussy eating.
Ah, there I go with the pussy talk.
Doesn't bother me near as much as it used to, depends on the tone of voice in which the term is used too. Like any sort of term someone would throw out at you -- "whore," "slut" and the like.
Anon comment is most likely not anon to you.
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We have been discussing in my household that possibly we should tone down the frequency with which "Bitch, please" is used in conversation. Probably not good for the baby.
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MY SPORFLE, LET ME SHOW YOU IT.
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on the other hand, maybe that's part of why cunt seems like such a sexy word when it's used in a way that infers pleasure and appreciation. in a society (okay, pretty much the whole world, actually) that still generally speaking is unconsciously or consciously holding a grudge against vaginas, and therefore a grudge against all those who possess vaginas - reading about a man who praises the cunt - recognizes it ( ... )
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For Scully I usually stick to clinical terms, for instance she would say clitoris rather than clit, penis rather than cock, stuff like that. My Mulder is more crude and will tend to use more slang words like dick or pussy. (though I personally really dislike the term and wonder if actually cunt would not be more straightforward.
Metaphors are to be handled with caution and must be thoroughly beta tested. Sometimes they work Lydia Bowers' "Pearl diving" and sometimes they don't. "little bud of pleasure tucked away at the front"
And PLEASE, PLEASE, NEVER EVER have Mulder refer to his penis as Mr Happy or Pecker Boy or other various pet names.
Writing decent smut is the hardest thing ever, people have NO idea.
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No kidding, Scarlet! And I agree with Scully being all about the clinical anatomical correctness.
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Don't try to be too clever with your language. Not everybody can be Penumbra and make it work.
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In the context of fanfic (or other literature) it's really context-dependent. Sometimes it's sexy and sometimes it just doesn't work, but I'm not sure I could pin down why.
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but I agree with you where fics are concerned, it is really context dependent. It really depends which level of 'pornage' you're trying to achieve. Still, I think the term 'cunt' should be used parsimoniously. Iolokus for instance in all its 500 pages of outrageousness uses the term only a couple of times and one of them is an insult. The other is "exquisite cunt" which in the context worked really well, I thought.
I think it is one of those words where it will really depends on the reader's sensibilities, and if you use it you have to take the risk that it will pull some people right out of your story.
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for me, there is something at once passionate yet intellectual about the use of it in a character's thought or speech. if the story has so far been light and frivolous and truly PWP in the sense that the characters are being written as smutty (and probably frivolous) versions of themselves, and suddenly the word cunt in used, that can be very unpleasant - at least i find. i imagine it must be something equivalent to turning dead sober in the middle of a drunken one night stand. (yes, i did say imagine *cough ( ... )
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FFFFF SCORE.
let me share a similiar anecdote made awfully clumsy with translation:
my friend was talking with some other girls, med students, and the following exchange took place:
girl a: the, uh... the...
girl b: penis?
girl a: YES! you took it right out of my mouth! [<- idiom meaning "this was exactly what i wanted to say but i couldn't find the words and/or you beat me to it ( ... )
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