Once when I was in fandom-history mode, I was thinking a lot about ship wars and their beginnings and I came to the conclusion that the creation of Paradigm of Uncertainty was the single most important event in the history of Harry/Hermione shipping. If you read old comments by the original H/Hr shippers back in the day, Ebony and Penny and Cassie and them, you notice them saying repeatedly "GoF had me resigned to it being R/Hr, but then Lori came along and wrote this story and now I can believe in H/Hr again." It seems to have been the very thing that drew this original, formative, influential crowd away from acknowledging that R/Hr was being written and allowed them to focus on Harry/Hermione instead. And they founded Fiction Alley, and the debate threads began, and the whole idea of H/Hr as a viable possibility despite the Yule Brawl and the platonic quote spread onward and outward from there.... Lori of course is absolutely nothing like the Harmonian true-believers you got by the end of the series, totally absolutely nothing
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You know ... if that's true, then wow I love the whole thing even more. The amount that Harmony!wank contributed to my enjoyment of fandom a couple of years ago should probably be kind of embarassing to confess.
Mmm, for fandom history's sake, I hope this one never gets deleted from the internet. It's an amazing, like, fandom document - if a modern fanfic reader were to read it now, within a couple of chapters they'd be saying "dead!Ron, super-powerful!Harry and evil!Cho - are you kidding me?" But those could have been the first of the cliches. That could have been the first Evil Cho.
God, I remember that. Why must you bring up my anonymouse days? I was in an emotional state, OK? HBP had just come out, ships that I had thought wouldn't be legitimized until DH had just steam-rollered in and left me all confused and feeling a bit short-changed, and then I saw that, and I think I lost my head for a bit.
And omfg they were exorcising it, you moron. And anyway, he turned out to be alive. So there.
dfvjhdgkjad\g I just realised, just after HBP, Lori said something like "I don't have a problem with H/G, but it's never done it for me personally", and then someone (angua9? OK that's just a guess) left a comment saying "my friend peachespig has a v good 'Ten Reasons for Harry/Ginny' and I followed the link and THAT'S HOW I FOUND YOU.
And! Also! I was just thinking how Lori always had a cool Ginny, and I just remembered that I think her Ginny was a journalist.
LOL! I can't imagine angua9 was at madlori's LJ.... I bet it was owlmoose, who is not in HP fandom (but likes HP) and is friends with both me and Lori. But it's nice to know I was being pimped! And how delightful that one comment was there to bring you onto my flist.
PoU is indeed an important piece of fandom history. One of the three epic pre-OotP fics with a huge audience, I suppose. I wish I could somehow know how differently fandom would have turned out if (say) PoU had been H/G. Fandom history is a combination of predictable responses to the books combined with totally random and arbitrary reactions that start with a small number of highly idiosyncratic and persuasive individuals and propagate outward through the whole mass of people.... I really think if those individuals had had different tastes in the early days, we'd be looking at a very different fandom. But we'll never know for sure.
And omfg they were exorcising it, you moron. And anyway, he turned out to be alive. So there.asdfajsdfjk Is that what they were doing? "Ron, let us
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I still consider myself a bit of a newbie in this fandom (going on two years, barely) so I always find it interesting when the 'original' stuff gets talked about, because for the most part, I have no idea what it is.
I ship canon, but have no real objections to reading anything thats been well written, so I might go have a look. Thanks!
Ahaha, while I'm very fond of it because of what it means to me (*violins*) I'm not sure I'd recommend it, because I'm pretty sure that the early chapters are pre-GoF. Yes, pre-GoF. I'm guessing if you're like me (I discovered fan fic just after OotP), your brain hurts if an adult Sirius walks into a story. I cannot really cope when this happens.
lol, but you see, I slogged through the entirety of After The End. If adult!Sirius ever had a prominent role...eh, it was actually a pretty good read, although very very long and very very AU. Still.
And yes, believe you me...I didn't find fandom until well after HBP had been released, so a LOT of older fics were made AU before I had a chance to read them. The whole shipping thing was a pretty foreign concept to me too. I don't think I even recognized the relationships growing in the books until JKR blew them open in HBP, so there was never any question about who was with who or whatever. Not that that really has anything to do with anything, but there you go...
I think I fail Harry/Ginny 101 by never having read that. I think something really upset me in the first chapter and I never continued with it. Heh. Maybe I'll set aside a day for it in the summer.
Same here, while I loved the romance that she gave us, I never really thought, "OK, Harry should be with Hermione/Ginny/Luna, and stop wasting time on Cho" during the reading. I went with whatever; the best way to describe it is probably as being a Harry/Sex shipper. Harry/Ginny didn't even occur to me. Then I found fandom and was all THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER. Luckily I picked the winning side. Pre-HBP shipping wank was a lot of fun, but in some ways I envy you, because reading HBP after 18 months of reading Harry/Ginny sixth year fics was ... kind of unpleasant.
Hee, it sounds quite crazy, but I unfortunately have a knee-jerk reaction of running away whenever Harry/Hermione is mentioned, though certainly it is quite an achievement.
P.S. What the hell is going on with the Checkmated wank? I've seen some posts, but I still have no idea what is going on.
:/ It's not as juicy as I would like, but what happened is some people who were rejected from CM made checkmatedrejex for people to post their rejected fics and to whinge about how mean CM are and how many reviews their stories got at other places. (IMO, fair enough, but a quick and hilarious glance through that comm shows exactly why some of them were rejected.) There are ... certain stories showing up there that I have a bit of beef with, to add to my amusement. And as cork shows above, a few people are reacting angrily to the whole enterprise.
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also: this and this. :)
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Mmm, for fandom history's sake, I hope this one never gets deleted from the internet. It's an amazing, like, fandom document - if a modern fanfic reader were to read it now, within a couple of chapters they'd be saying "dead!Ron, super-powerful!Harry and evil!Cho - are you kidding me?" But those could have been the first of the cliches. That could have been the first Evil Cho.
God, I remember that. Why must you bring up my anonymouse days? I was in an emotional state, OK? HBP had just come out, ships that I had thought wouldn't be legitimized until DH had just steam-rollered in and left me all confused and feeling a bit short-changed, and then I saw that, and I think I lost my head for a bit.
And omfg they were exorcising it, you moron. And anyway, he turned out to be alive. So there.
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And! Also! I was just thinking how Lori always had a cool Ginny, and I just remembered that I think her Ginny was a journalist.
THE MIND, IT JUST WON'T STOP BOGGLING.
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PoU is indeed an important piece of fandom history. One of the three epic pre-OotP fics with a huge audience, I suppose. I wish I could somehow know how differently fandom would have turned out if (say) PoU had been H/G. Fandom history is a combination of predictable responses to the books combined with totally random and arbitrary reactions that start with a small number of highly idiosyncratic and persuasive individuals and propagate outward through the whole mass of people.... I really think if those individuals had had different tastes in the early days, we'd be looking at a very different fandom. But we'll never know for sure.
And omfg they were exorcising it, you moron. And anyway, he turned out to be alive. So there.asdfajsdfjk Is that what they were doing? "Ron, let us ( ... )
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I ship canon, but have no real objections to reading anything thats been well written, so I might go have a look. Thanks!
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And yes, believe you me...I didn't find fandom until well after HBP had been released, so a LOT of older fics were made AU before I had a chance to read them. The whole shipping thing was a pretty foreign concept to me too. I don't think I even recognized the relationships growing in the books until JKR blew them open in HBP, so there was never any question about who was with who or whatever. Not that that really has anything to do with anything, but there you go...
*brain hurts*
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Same here, while I loved the romance that she gave us, I never really thought, "OK, Harry should be with Hermione/Ginny/Luna, and stop wasting time on Cho" during the reading. I went with whatever; the best way to describe it is probably as being a Harry/Sex shipper. Harry/Ginny didn't even occur to me. Then I found fandom and was all THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER. Luckily I picked the winning side. Pre-HBP shipping wank was a lot of fun, but in some ways I envy you, because reading HBP after 18 months of reading Harry/Ginny sixth year fics was ... kind of unpleasant.
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P.S. What the hell is going on with the Checkmated wank? I've seen some posts, but I still have no idea what is going on.
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