No, no, it makes sense, and to a large degree I agree with you. It is generally agreed that the female body is a very beautiful thing, and of course it's the first rule of history that people can and will screw up just about anything good. The male body is beautiful too, but women will pay to view the male body much, much less often, because for one thing they are much less turned on by sight, and for another, men just tend to be much less interesting to look at. It may be a gender-equality thing, or it may just be a case of what people will buy and what they won't. Not that that's any less of a social issue
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I don't even remember what class we debated this in (egads, I've been in school too long), but there was some research & debate that historically, women always stuck closer together. We sent our men away for hunting, wars, whatever and "we" stayed together. Women raised thier kids together, worked their farms together, and bonded more with thier fellows than with thier mates. Women, while they may not have had the status, were the major part of the society (the "man as hunter" thing isn't all that true, because most socities relied on the crops or gathering of the women as hunt meat was not a reliable, frequent food source) and a part that tended to stick closely together
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Yeah, that's a very strong biological urge, to bond with other women. Women often need a kind of emotional support that men don't offer, so they look for it in other women. They say that's why a lot of gay female couples have trouble, because they're both bonding in a strong emotional way and not getting much to bounce back off
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1. OH, yeah. 2. Well, I think there's a difference between appreciating God's handiwork and being physically attracted. And while I can appreciate female beauty, the only attraction I've ever felt is for guys. I'm not sure I can explain it any better than that, because *I* can't understand how anyone can be attracted to the same sex or both at once. *shrug* But yeah, it's totally possible to be completely heterosexual.
It is possible? ::is all shocked and stuff:: That's honestly a concept I'd never thought of before. It occured to me while I was watching a chick flick the other night. So weird....
Eh. We're all built differently, I guess.
But it still annoys me when people say "Bisexuality is just confusion/greediness/an excuse to fornicate with everyone and everything!!!1oneone!" (yes, Pat Robertson), because whether you believe it's right or not (and that's a COMPLETELY different debate that I am staying out of, as I suspect we disagree emphatically), people who are bisexual honestly are attracted to both genders, and aren't any more promiscuous than most 'modern' straight people.
Yes, yes, thank you. :) ::hug:: I can see their point of view, I suppose, but still....
Hee! As someone said during a discussion of Escaflowne (in which the main female character accidentally bamfs wearing nothing but strategically-placed magical steam), "Yeah, I could do with some random manifestations of hot naked chicks." XD
Boys are silly. Your husband and my fellow would get along, I suspect. =D Also, if a guy comes out and admits that another of his gender is handsome/attractive/visually pleasing in any way, he immediately gets paranoia and "OMG t3h GAYZ!!!1". If a woman does the same, it's completely normal and acceptable. That's social stigma for you. Maybe men notice, they just don't talk about it as much?
See, now, that's where I think I split off from just thinking women are pretty. I put myself in the situation and um...well...my brain says something, and it's definitely involving 'boobiez'....
I have great respect for window shopping. :) That's all I'm allowed to do at the moment anyway (having a boyfriend and all that).
That's hilarious! :D I guess there is either a stigma or a difference in hardwiring there. This was why I was very impressed when a guy I fancied was not afraid to admit that there were men he found pleasant to look at. It was nice to find someone who broke out of the mentality. ^_^
Yes, there are people out there who are attracted to only one gender, m'dear. I'm one of them. Like myemmie, I can find a woman attractive but I have no desire to be with her and I do the mental recoil as well if I consider the idea.
My theory about straight people is: you have to love your own body in order to derive pleasure from it, so it figures that a straight person cannot honestly find their own gender disgusting, no matter what some boys say.
Interesting. I tend to think if a person does find their own gender disgusting (as opposed to simply not being sexually attracted to it), they have some psychological issues regarding their own body image or sexuality or something like that... That, or they're just saying it's disgusting to avoid being suspected of (horrors!) gayness. :)
Some mostly-straight people might feel strongly enough about a certain person of their own gender, that they will be using that side of their own spectrum of attraction. Same for some mostly-gay people.
Absolutely. You fall in love with a person, not a gender. :)
I don't know how that theory translates for mostly-gay people, but to be stereotypical, I'd figure that a lot of them are more tolerant, and less strict about defining gender anyway, so I doubt they could find the opposite sex disgusting either.
Yes, I think that's often how it works, Jack McFarland notwithstanding. =) My brother is gay, but he makes out with girls on a regular basis, just for the fun of it, and is never shy to admit it when he sees a pretty girl. I've often found that people who are outside of society's norm and get picked on for that reason are more tolerant of others--gothic kids, for example.
finding Angelina Jolie attractive because OH MY GOD TAKE ME NOW,
XD Sorry, that just made me laugh out loud.
Some girls find themselves on that side: being able to appreciate beauty but not having a particular interest in sex with that person.
Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with that. ::nod:: I just happen to think I've crossed the line mentioned.
And as for the mostly-balanced bisexuals - damn lucky lot you are!! XD
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*wrinkles nose at Angelina Jolie* (Adopting babies from other countries is one thing; but buying them because one is a celebrity and doesn't feel one should have to go through the same hoops as everyone else? Please.) I stop seeing someone as beautiful when I dislike them - and the reverse; people gain beauty in direct proportion to their likability - and Angelina Jolie is pretty far down the list of people I'd have to be drunk to sleep with.
I've often found that people who are outside of society's norm and get picked on for that reason are more tolerant of others--gothic kids, for example.
I think being picked on sometimes has a salutary effect on one's character, at least when it comes to empathy. Of course, sometimes it has very bad effects...
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2. Well, I think there's a difference between appreciating God's handiwork and being physically attracted. And while I can appreciate female beauty, the only attraction I've ever felt is for guys. I'm not sure I can explain it any better than that, because *I* can't understand how anyone can be attracted to the same sex or both at once. *shrug*
But yeah, it's totally possible to be completely heterosexual.
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Eh. We're all built differently, I guess.
But it still annoys me when people say "Bisexuality is just confusion/greediness/an excuse to fornicate with everyone and everything!!!1oneone!" (yes, Pat Robertson), because whether you believe it's right or not (and that's a COMPLETELY different debate that I am staying out of, as I suspect we disagree emphatically), people who are bisexual honestly are attracted to both genders, and aren't any more promiscuous than most 'modern' straight people.
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Personally, I could do with a little more promiscuity in my life right now. ;) *is living like a nun, sigh*
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Hee! As someone said during a discussion of Escaflowne (in which the main female character accidentally bamfs wearing nothing but strategically-placed magical steam), "Yeah, I could do with some random manifestations of hot naked chicks." XD
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See, now, that's where I think I split off from just thinking women are pretty. I put myself in the situation and um...well...my brain says something, and it's definitely involving 'boobiez'....
...I'll just stop there, kay? =)
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I have great respect for window shopping. :) That's all I'm allowed to do at the moment anyway (having a boyfriend and all that).
That's hilarious! :D I guess there is either a stigma or a difference in hardwiring there. This was why I was very impressed when a guy I fancied was not afraid to admit that there were men he found pleasant to look at. It was nice to find someone who broke out of the mentality. ^_^
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Interesting. I tend to think if a person does find their own gender disgusting (as opposed to simply not being sexually attracted to it), they have some psychological issues regarding their own body image or sexuality or something like that... That, or they're just saying it's disgusting to avoid being suspected of (horrors!) gayness. :)
Some mostly-straight people might feel strongly enough about a certain person of their own gender, that they will be using that side of their own spectrum of attraction. Same for some mostly-gay people.
Absolutely. You fall in love with a person, not a gender. :)
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Yes, I think that's often how it works, Jack McFarland notwithstanding. =) My brother is gay, but he makes out with girls on a regular basis, just for the fun of it, and is never shy to admit it when he sees a pretty girl. I've often found that people who are outside of society's norm and get picked on for that reason are more tolerant of others--gothic kids, for example.
finding Angelina Jolie attractive because OH MY GOD TAKE ME NOW,
XD Sorry, that just made me laugh out loud.
Some girls find themselves on that side: being able to appreciate beauty but not having a particular interest in sex with that person.
Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with that. ::nod:: I just happen to think I've crossed the line mentioned.
And as for the mostly-balanced bisexuals - damn lucky lot you are!! XD ( ... )
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I've often found that people who are outside of society's norm and get picked on for that reason are more tolerant of others--gothic kids, for example.
I think being picked on sometimes has a salutary effect on one's character, at least when it comes to empathy. Of course, sometimes it has very bad effects...
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