On Friday Liz told me I have "the greatest hair in America".

[1_2_suckerpunch]

So it's Easter, right? My sister's at church and my mom is cooking an elaborate lunch and I just finished licking a beater full of frosting

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[menis_by_memory]

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I think touching is alright with the patriarchy. Backrubs and handshakes and hugs and dancing are all fine (now [by the majority]). Same with good food. They're talking about cheapened indulgence. Touch and taste are just more accessibly indulgent. Suspicion is naturally aroused when sexually mature individuals start tangling into each other for convenient or appealing purposes of play, as frustrating as it is for folks to play the 'subconscious' card; it's the same deal with the kid in a translucent tube top yowling about being objectified. I mean, looking at pornography would be the counterpoint to sunrises, and if you wanted to hear screaming or smell blood, odds are the church would want you to be disturbed about it and address the matter. I don't know who's giving you these ideas, but thankfully your parents are not the church, nor is Pope Palpantine or Pat Robertson. الله أكبر, period.

[1_2_suckerpunch]

looking at pornography would be the counterpoint to sunrises, and if you wanted to hear screaming or smell blood, odds are the church would want you to be disturbed about it and address the matter.

That's the point, that taste and touch tend to be demonized in total, not certain facets.

[yasureubetcha]

But many churches or groups shun the idea that we can enjoy our food for anything other than nourishment. But isn't that God's bounty also? Isn't that delicious, ripe strawberry equal proof of a benign deity as the sunrise?

I see it more as the dieting industry than anything else taking on taste as a whole. Gluttony as I understand it means either excessive consumption of or excessive preocupation with food. The consumption and sharing of good food has occurred uncondemned for ages, from the NT church, which "devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, to the breaking of bread and to prayers" to the potlucks of today. Jesus even turned water into wine--a functional beverage into an enjoyable one.

[yasureubetcha]

Also, regarding touch. You say that it is demonized in total, rather than certain facets. But there are many enjoyable things it is permissible to touch--animals' fur or scales, for instance, or grass, or water. In fact, the only area where touch is affected by strong (besides common sense, as in the matter of hot stoves) is other people. A fairly narrow range of proscription, it seems.

[menis_by_memory]

Precisely. That's the problem with trying to make more absolute arguments: they're usually irrational. It's also the problem with making good arguments: a sound argument usually approaches a detail, and it's not so easy to find that particular detail which will pull a Jenga on the larger concept. Keep swimming, kiddo. You might want to give religion and sexuality a break, though, because honestly, you're given such a hard time with those things that your opinions are liable to be polarized.

[1_2_suckerpunch]

...I have no problem with religion. And in this case, it's hardly relevant.

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