I was walking home, but then I decided to stop in a new cafe and check it out and have a cup of tea. This was clearly a winning decision because they are playing "Everyday People" by Arrested Development
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It's probably because when you have an opinion on something you tend to come off very stong and (as you said) blunt. Like the Sam/Gabriel thing, which would probably offend people who ship it or make them think you're saying their ship is invalid or something. Idk, that's just the first example that came to me.
I will tell you one thing in this post I don't agree with though: I do think I'm a little older than most people in fandom and sometimes I think I can offer up some life experiences.
I don't think age really equates to having more life experience. There are plenty of children/young people that have been through a hell of a lot more than most adults. It's hard to tell who the person behind the online persona is sometimes, and you can never really know what their life is like :)
Hey, thank you for offering your perspective. I think you're right re: life experience, now that I think about it. Hm.
With the S/G thing...it's true I came off as strong, but I guess I don't take shipping all that seriously, so it didn't occur to me that it would genuinely offend anyone.
It's possible I need to better consider the effects of my words. I think, IRL, I do, but online I may be more willing to say whatever pops into my head.
Any time bb. The problem with being online is that it isn't rl and we can forget that though it might not mean much to us, some people invest a lot of themselves to the internet. For what it's worth, I think the fact that you're willing to ask for other people's perspective instead of going off on one says a lot more about you than anything on an anon meme.
The problem with being online is that it isn't rl and we can forget that though it might not mean much to us, some people invest a lot of themselves to the internet.
It's true. I forget about this, but you're right, and I remember it every time I look at F!S.
The truth is that I do tend to look down on people who take shipping really seriously. I need to think about this a bit.
Sometimes i think that people online are just too sensitive sometimes. I was a little shocked to see you say that you dont ship Cas/Dean but only cos i could have sworn you did!
LOL I think that's actually a generalisation on my part cos people (ie me apparently!) just assume that if you like Cas you ship Cas/Dean.
I mean i dont have a problem with that at all... i dont know where i'm going with this....
Back on topic - Guuuuuurl Haters Gonna Hate, whatever!!
Ha! You have noooo idea how many times I've had to correct that impression! I think it's the icon.
I do like Cas, but I see him as asexual. I've said this before, but I can't seriously ship him with anyone. Sassy, to me, is a crack ship, and I enjoy it for the ridiculousness. Dean/Cas is more serious, and I just...I don't see it.
Okay, I did write it once, but it was crack, based on something silly Misha said about how angels have sex by staring intently at people.
I mostly ship one-sided Dean/early!Castiel. BACK WHEN CASTIEL WAS ACTUALLY A BADASS. One day I will write the story where Sam is roleplaying Castiel to fuck with Dean. Hahahaha. I have had ONE LINE written for about A SEASON AND A HALF.
Fanfic. I am not fast at it.
This was a random comment! But I like crack ships, crack ships are superb.
I do relate to what you say about learning to develop a much more assertive personality; I had to do that too, and I know that sometimes I go further than I intend to. But, hey. It's life. Sometimes you get a bit of foot in your mouth. *shrug*
I'm a fairly new friend who doesn't know you that well, so perhaps I can provide kind of a first-impression/outside opinion? In the spirit of the honesty with which you asked the question
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I really appreciate your comment. Thank you so much for your perspective.
It's true I really do hate that ship, but...you know I don't take this stuff all that seriously? I couldn't really judge someone for shipping anything (as long as it's not hardcore underage or something like that, I would probably be judgey about that).
No worries. :D I know that I'm hypersensitive about that kind of thing -- I used to be (and kind of still am) surrounded by really judgmental people who made me feel bad for liking shows/music/movies/whatever, so it's a major psychological sore spot. I still don't play music when I have passengers in my car because of it. Plus, PMSing like WHOA, so not really your fault at all.
You actually kind of remind me of one of my friends -- same kind of assertive personality, I suppose. You were never in doubt about Kostas' opinions. We fought like cat and dog for months but I'm visiting him in Paris over the summer so I guess we got over it. :)
No, I certainly don't consider you to be bitchy. I really enjoy your posts and breadth of knowledge, even if I fail to comment over here as often as I should.
However, just skimming over your responses on this post, I noticed that you mentioned several times that you're not taking this too seriously. The problem is that it could imply the other person does, which then makes them feel foolish and/or wrong for holding that opinion.
I'm not very assertive myself, so I quite admire that you're so willing to engage in debate both online & off. And I think the fact that you genuinely want input on this shows how open-minded you are. As you said, posting online can be difficult; sometimes statements can come across as overly brusque, despite your intent.
However, just skimming over your responses on this post, I noticed that you mentioned several times that you're not taking this too seriously. The problem is that it could imply the other person does, which then makes them feel foolish and/or wrong for holding that opinion.
I think you've hit the nail on the head right there. I don't want to offend people. On the other hand, I don't necessarily want to hold back my opinion. I think I need to reconsider how people may react.
What's funny is that I don't even consider myself over opinionated...when it comes to fandom, anyway.
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I will tell you one thing in this post I don't agree with though: I do think I'm a little older than most people in fandom and sometimes I think I can offer up some life experiences.
I don't think age really equates to having more life experience. There are plenty of children/young people that have been through a hell of a lot more than most adults. It's hard to tell who the person behind the online persona is sometimes, and you can never really know what their life is like :)
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With the S/G thing...it's true I came off as strong, but I guess I don't take shipping all that seriously, so it didn't occur to me that it would genuinely offend anyone.
It's possible I need to better consider the effects of my words. I think, IRL, I do, but online I may be more willing to say whatever pops into my head.
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It's true. I forget about this, but you're right, and I remember it every time I look at F!S.
The truth is that I do tend to look down on people who take shipping really seriously. I need to think about this a bit.
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LOL I think that's actually a generalisation on my part cos people (ie me apparently!) just assume that if you like Cas you ship Cas/Dean.
I mean i dont have a problem with that at all... i dont know where i'm going with this....
Back on topic - Guuuuuurl Haters Gonna Hate, whatever!!
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I do like Cas, but I see him as asexual. I've said this before, but I can't seriously ship him with anyone. Sassy, to me, is a crack ship, and I enjoy it for the ridiculousness. Dean/Cas is more serious, and I just...I don't see it.
Okay, I did write it once, but it was crack, based on something silly Misha said about how angels have sex by staring intently at people.
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Fanfic. I am not fast at it.
This was a random comment! But I like crack ships, crack ships are superb.
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I do relate to what you say about learning to develop a much more assertive personality; I had to do that too, and I know that sometimes I go further than I intend to. But, hey. It's life. Sometimes you get a bit of foot in your mouth. *shrug*
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It's true I really do hate that ship, but...you know I don't take this stuff all that seriously? I couldn't really judge someone for shipping anything (as long as it's not hardcore underage or something like that, I would probably be judgey about that).
I'm sorry that I offended you.
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You actually kind of remind me of one of my friends -- same kind of assertive personality, I suppose. You were never in doubt about Kostas' opinions. We fought like cat and dog for months but I'm visiting him in Paris over the summer so I guess we got over it. :)
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However, just skimming over your responses on this post, I noticed that you mentioned several times that you're not taking this too seriously. The problem is that it could imply the other person does, which then makes them feel foolish and/or wrong for holding that opinion.
I'm not very assertive myself, so I quite admire that you're so willing to engage in debate both online & off. And I think the fact that you genuinely want input on this shows how open-minded you are. As you said, posting online can be difficult; sometimes statements can come across as overly brusque, despite your intent.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head right there. I don't want to offend people. On the other hand, I don't necessarily want to hold back my opinion. I think I need to reconsider how people may react.
What's funny is that I don't even consider myself over opinionated...when it comes to fandom, anyway.
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