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Jan 04, 2005 16:48

It seems like a lot of people are talking about the earthquakes and tsunamis that have been occuring lately. While I probably should say some words about it, I honestly I can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said more that enough times already. I wouldn't mind doing something to assist those that are suffering, but, frankly, I ( Read more... )

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inkchou January 5 2005, 05:23:05 UTC

This allows you to donate online or you can check out your local chapter of the the Red Cross for answers. Every little bit helps ( ... )

tenshi_no_yoru January 5 2005, 07:45:03 UTC

I suppose I can see the desire to know whats up ahead, but didn't Jesus tell his disciples not to try to determine the end of the world ahead of time? I can't help but think I recall hearing that somewhere ( ... )

inkchou January 5 2005, 21:37:34 UTC

I can't remember the exact scripture (if you like I'm willing to look it up) but it was something along the lines of only God himself knows when the world will end so don't believe anyone else; they're just lying to you. Oh, and before I go on the man who's faith was tested was named Job and yes he retained his faith and had quite a discussion with God afterward. It's fun to read because God actually becomes pretty snippy and sarcastic with Job. It also demonstrates that God can indeed be swayed and convinced on occasion ( ... )

tenshi_no_yoru January 6 2005, 20:44:32 UTC

Thats right. I believe his name was Job. I forget details like that sometimes. However, now that you mention it, isn't it something of a slight contradiction that God's opinion could ever be swayed? If God is all-knowing and if God's word defines the order of our universe, wouldn't proving him wrong have some effects on the universe? If someone's opinion changes, its usually because they've found fault in their former opinion. Unless I'm misinterpreting what you said, then God couldn't be completely infallible, could he ( ... )

tenshi_no_yoru January 6 2005, 20:44:57 UTC

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There may be a God. There may not be. To put it simply, I don't know. I have my questions and I have my doubts, but it goes against my speculative nature to deny the possiblity that God may exist. Basically, I'm stuck at a "Maybe." While I am almost completely sure that it probably isn't the God so often depicted in the Bible and other such scripture, I still can't deny the possiblity that it may be the God depicted in those scriptures.

One part of me tells me that angels, walking on water, water into wine, etc. are unlikely myths. Thats probably logic. However, another part of me wants to believe angels and the like are real. Thats probably the same part of me that wants to believe in Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster, undead vampires, and werewolves. The part that wants to believe there is something more to this existence than this material plane. In the end, I'm still just left with an open skepticism.

inkchou January 7 2005, 01:23:48 UTC

You'll notice I never said God couldn't be swayed and was infallible. In fact his opinion on certain matters changes due to the actions of humans (we have more sway over him than most people realize). He's never found fault in his opinions, he's just adapted them to the requests of humanity. However you'll also notice he's never been proved wrong - give me a specific example of when God has been at fault ( ... )

inkchou January 7 2005, 01:24:21 UTC

Again, I'm liberal in my beliefs (but not my politics *rim shot*) and I agree with you that the God depicted in the bible is far from accurate. I don't have religion, I have faith and the lovely thing about that is you don't have to justify faith because it's just that - belief without certainty or reason.

tenshi_no_yoru January 7 2005, 03:36:37 UTC

You seem to respond as if I'm arguing with you. As far as I know, this is just a simple discussion, its not a debate in my eyes. However, I think my point still stands...if your opinion changes or adapts, its usually because your previous opinion became faulty in your own eyes, right? Frankly, I think this applies to God too. However, if God is the almighty creator of the universe, wouldn't his new opinion immediately become part of the law of the universe? I'm not trying to say God would be wrong so much as God is supposedly alright because he seems to make up and change the rules as he goes along. Whether humans influenced the change in opinion or not is unimportant ( ... )

tenshi_no_yoru January 7 2005, 06:00:09 UTC

The post before last was probably poorly organized. When I said I refuse to believe independence is wrong, I was refering to some of those church leader that seem more like dictators to me, of course, most of them lived a few hundreds of years ago. I was refering to the use of torture and murder to force confessions from people and forcing "heathen savages" to become Christians. That sort of thing seems like the exact opposite of independence to me. Of course, I realize its not supposed to be the word of God that people are forced into accepting God and Jesus into their lives. However, it was done as though it were, correct? My problem isn't with God, my problem is with some of his apparently misguided followers. I think I adequately explained what I meant ( ... )

tenshi_no_yoru January 7 2005, 06:09:40 UTC

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