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Dec 03, 2011 15:18

[Jubilee is sitting on her bed. In her lap is fabric and she's slowly sewing by hand. She looks contemplative.]With all the talk lately, I thought I'd ask a question ( Read more... )

c: godot, c: bobby singer, c: magneto, c: peter parker | spider-man, c: france, !: jubilee

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doeswhathewants December 3 2011, 20:27:19 UTC
Guy with a big S on his chest told me the difference was that, superheros don't kill people and vigilantes do.

I'm not sure if I agree with that, though. I think your definition is more fitting.

So.. you're a mutant? What's the difference between mutants and some of the superheroes with powers that aren't considered mutants?

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thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 20:30:04 UTC
I'm a mutant. There's also metahumans, aliens, and several other types. You're talking about Supes, who is another type.

And not all vigilantes kill. Supposedly, Bats doesn't kill - does that make him a superhero or a vigilante? I think vigilante, because he goes looking for the trouble, whereas things get dumped on Supes.

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doeswhathewants December 3 2011, 20:41:06 UTC
Supes and Bats. Sounds like a snack mix.

I've never really understood the difference- er sorry if that's insensitive- I just mean, either someone has powers or they don't, right? A person should be judged on their actions, not on genetics.

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thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 20:46:48 UTC
Eh, it's really Superman and Batman, but Supes doesn't mind being called Supes and Bats seems to really mind being called Batsy so...

[So, she's a petty asshole who calls him Batsy at every opportunity.]

Mutants have a genetic component. Metahumans usually have had something happen to them to give them their powers... mrr. Like She-Hulk. That wasn't something that her genetics did to her. Or at least that's the way I've always understood it. Michael might be able to explain it better. And then there are the Aliens that show up and get powers because our planet's different.

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beenwaitinglong December 3 2011, 20:46:42 UTC
A vigilante is a civilian who enforces justice without the involvement of law enforcement. Plain and simple.

So basically, if you beat up and arrest criminals and you're not a cop-- you are a vigilante.

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thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 20:49:04 UTC
Mmm. See, it isn't that cut and dried where I'm from. Because there are criminals that normal cops can't handle. So, people like me do and turn them over to specialized facilities that are supposedly made to handle them. And what about alien threats? Or interdimensional ones? These are things that we handle, because the regular authorities just aren't able to.

And yeah, it'd be great if they'd give us our credit, but they don't. However, they've got no problem stepping outta the way and letting us get hurt instead.

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beenwaitinglong December 3 2011, 20:51:11 UTC
But it really is that cut and dried.

Now, if you're trying to attach some sort of judgment to the term-- to say that a vigilante is something good or bad-- that's when things get more complex. It has nothing to do with what the police are equipped to handle. From a legal standpoint, you're vigilantes.

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thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 20:52:03 UTC
Then, you believe in a world where there can't be heroes?

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Video thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 21:21:28 UTC
See, I even grant there are positives to both sides. And that's cool. I'm just wondering out loud.

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Re: Video thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 22:07:38 UTC
That's fair. Most superheroes can tread over the line into vigilantism if they aren't careful. And no one's perfect.

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*action makes_asteroids December 3 2011, 23:31:59 UTC
[He goes looking for Jubilee after he replies to Godot, knocking softly on the door jam.]

Care for some company?

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Re: *action thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 23:41:52 UTC
[She looks up.]

Sure. Pop a squat.

[She moves some of the fabric and settles back against her pillows.]

Ya know, every time I hear someone spout about justice, I wanna go blow up something. Violently.

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Re: *action makes_asteroids December 3 2011, 23:46:34 UTC
[He settles down next to her.]

Me too. It's how I've logged so many hours in the Danger Room.

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Re: *action thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 23:49:17 UTC
[She snorts and flexes her fingers as she works.]

I would, but I've already logged five hours in there today and my fingers were starting to tingle. Usually a hint that I need to stop for the day.

[She sighs.]

I want people to see the difference. Superheroes can become vigilantes and vice versa, but one is not necessarily the other. Look at Superman.

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Video beardedveteran December 3 2011, 23:33:19 UTC
... 'Mutants'-- that's what you call them, where you're from?

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Video thelittlestbub December 3 2011, 23:39:51 UTC
Mutants are humans who have a gene that activates, usually in puberty, and gives them an extra power.

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Video beardedveteran December 4 2011, 00:17:19 UTC
So, people with powers? [ A pause as he sits back in his chair, rocking slightly. ] We call 'em NEXTs. Well. 'Them'. I'm one too.

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Video thelittlestbub December 4 2011, 00:32:35 UTC
Next step in human evolution.

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