It seems you have given into the rant that I was trying to resist. *pets you*
because Lee and Kara made a poor decision under the influence--they do not deserve to be together (because, yeah, that one poor decision is so much worse than EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE?!
I know. It's sad. EVERYONE got endings! EVERYONE! Even if they hurt, they got actual endings. But not pilots.
But no affection? No anything except in flashbacks? Nothing. No begging her not to leave or a hug or anything? And then POOF. She just disappears? HOW DOES THAT INSTILL SATISFACTION IN ANYONE? I ASK YOU! All it instills in me is deep depression, frustration that my favorite character is a gaping plot hole, and the unshakable notion that Lee goes and climbs his mountain--only to jump off of it when he gets to the top.Try not to think about it too much. That way lies only rage and sadness
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[I'm warning for generalized rants and slight off-topic ramblings. This show gives me FEELINGS. And not all of them are completely tied in to Kara and Lee. Also, I ranted so much I need to split this into two comments *headdesk* SORRYYYYY.]
*is petted* I never pass up an opportunity to rant about this finale. Sometimes television finales are great. Sometimes they suck. Sometimes they don't exist. If they do exist they all have their flaws (I'm thinking of the obvious in-universe liberties taken in BtVS, but those work because they're part of a deliberate metaphor and further serve to strengthen the overarching theme of the show itself). But this? There is not one single bit of this that's logical. The only bits I like are sending Galactica off in a blaze of glory (although the battle itself is extremely "WTF"--I'm not even going to go there right now since that's fairly off topic for this comm) and the fact that Gaius Baltar gets to give his giant eloquent speech in CIC. I love Gaius most when he's a skeezbag and a sleezball and I
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And yes. Your ending is way better. I don't understand what purpose it serves to have them not be together except that the writers and producers apparently took absurd levels of glee in never allowing them to be together. It doesn't actually make sense to deny them their ending in this case. It's just like they got to that point while writing and were like "wait, this is looking too happy. MAKE HER DISAPPEAR." I do love how Lee makes a move in the actual ending like he's going to hold her close and never let her go and she does this little hitch backstep like "if you touch me I won't leave and I know I have to so please don't." Then again, the finale sends so many mixed messages about everything that I guess the message could also be "don't touch me, I don't love you." Though that contradicts everything else we've seen for four seasons a mini series and a movie. In fact, hey, everything else about Daybreak does tooI'm coming to be of the opinion that they made the ending so terrible just so we'd still be talking about it now. And so
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I do love how Lee makes a move in the actual ending like he's going to hold her close and never let her go and she does this little hitch backstep like "if you touch me I won't leave and I know I have to so please don't"
Oh God! That is my favorite moment of that scene. His face! Her face! SO MANY FEELINGS! Mabye the writers should have just left out all dialogue and let Jamie and Katee just sell the shit outta it. Haha.
I always feel like I've betrayed my friends' trust by making them watch something so good and then the ending being that. It makes me feel like a bad person. I do not like that my favorite show makes me honestly feel like a bad person.THAT to me is HILARIOUS! Because basically anytime you try to convert anyone to the BSG koolaid, you're pretty much saying, "Hey, come spend 4 season getting your heart torn apart and your soul shredded! It's awesome!" Lol, and it IS awesome, but also, wrenching. I must admit, no one I've converted has turned into a Kara/Lee shipper yet *cries forever* so I don't feel SO bad about
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The person I'm currently converting is apparently an Adama/Roslin shipper--and we're on episode five (I don't even know). I also had to explain to her what shipping even was. But she has made comments to the effect of "oh, they are so hot for each other" and "tell me they get it on in the next episode" in regards to Kara and Lee. I'm working on her (it possibly helps that I cannot contain my levels of squee.) Why I want her to feel this pain, I'm not entirely sure. BUT SHE MUST. (Also I won't feel quite as stupid crying so much if she's as invested in it too. Lol.)
So the first time I watched Daybreak, I was ok with it. I was ok with everything. I think I was mostly just stunned that the show was over and it literally had been giving me anxiety attacks, so it was nice that those had stopped. They were, of course, replaced by random bouts of tears but hey, that's ok.
I totally get what you mean. The first (and only) time I watched Daybreak, I was pretty much in shock that BSG was actually over, and because I didn't really think about what the show gave Lee and Kara for an ending, I was pretty OK with it. But as that shock wore off, I began to think about it more... and realized what a crap, retcon-y ending we (and K & L) were handed and expected to buy. Hence the beginning of the rage, rants, and general anger.
If they're going to end it with having the Fleet end up at our Earth (which I'm not going to go into how subtly that bothers me--on the face of it, whatevs, I'm fine with it) then fine, ok. I'm actually pretty cool with that, and I'm cool with all of us being part-Cylon, and I'm even cool with who dies and who doesn't--issues about gender aside (notice how the only females still alive are in traditional gender roles? Mothers, wives, etc. They've killed off my president, my warrior, my mechanic, my communications specialist, my prognosticating crazy Cylon, my conflicted double agent Cylon, and my competent aide de camp/genius Cylon. I'm left with three wives, one of whom is a mother. What guys get to stay alive? All of them. Every single one. Oh, except Sam. So, on that score, I'm out an athlete.) But I am not cool at all with deciding everything was a one-true-God (this is just so against what the rest of the show had been) and I'm really really not cool with everyone Lee Adama loves leaving him in the course of five minutes. And with
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because Lee and Kara made a poor decision under the influence--they do not deserve to be together (because, yeah, that one poor decision is so much worse than EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE?!
I know. It's sad. EVERYONE got endings! EVERYONE! Even if they hurt, they got actual endings. But not pilots.
But no affection? No anything except in flashbacks? Nothing. No begging her not to leave or a hug or anything? And then POOF. She just disappears? HOW DOES THAT INSTILL SATISFACTION IN ANYONE? I ASK YOU! All it instills in me is deep depression, frustration that my favorite character is a gaping plot hole, and the unshakable notion that Lee goes and climbs his mountain--only to jump off of it when he gets to the top.Try not to think about it too much. That way lies only rage and sadness ( ... )
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*is petted* I never pass up an opportunity to rant about this finale. Sometimes television finales are great. Sometimes they suck. Sometimes they don't exist. If they do exist they all have their flaws (I'm thinking of the obvious in-universe liberties taken in BtVS, but those work because they're part of a deliberate metaphor and further serve to strengthen the overarching theme of the show itself). But this? There is not one single bit of this that's logical. The only bits I like are sending Galactica off in a blaze of glory (although the battle itself is extremely "WTF"--I'm not even going to go there right now since that's fairly off topic for this comm) and the fact that Gaius Baltar gets to give his giant eloquent speech in CIC. I love Gaius most when he's a skeezbag and a sleezball and I ( ... )
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Oh God! That is my favorite moment of that scene. His face! Her face! SO MANY FEELINGS! Mabye the writers should have just left out all dialogue and let Jamie and Katee just sell the shit outta it. Haha.
I always feel like I've betrayed my friends' trust by making them watch something so good and then the ending being that. It makes me feel like a bad person. I do not like that my favorite show makes me honestly feel like a bad person.THAT to me is HILARIOUS! Because basically anytime you try to convert anyone to the BSG koolaid, you're pretty much saying, "Hey, come spend 4 season getting your heart torn apart and your soul shredded! It's awesome!" Lol, and it IS awesome, but also, wrenching. I must admit, no one I've converted has turned into a Kara/Lee shipper yet *cries forever* so I don't feel SO bad about ( ... )
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I totally get what you mean. The first (and only) time I watched Daybreak, I was pretty much in shock that BSG was actually over, and because I didn't really think about what the show gave Lee and Kara for an ending, I was pretty OK with it. But as that shock wore off, I began to think about it more... and realized what a crap, retcon-y ending we (and K & L) were handed and expected to buy. Hence the beginning of the rage, rants, and general anger.
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