OK folks, it's time for another topical rant...

Dec 14, 2009 23:26

This one is on selling things in your online business ( Read more... )

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frabjously December 15 2009, 04:41:58 UTC
Hah, I'm pretty sure I know what set this off.

I think it's a blurry line when you're using a community in both a personal and professional capacity. Ideally you should have two different accounts to signal whether you're representing yourself or the company though there will be some overlap.

But mentioning your kid's college fund? Most companies exist to support people's livelihoods - likely every other company that post on steamfashion will use the money for something important like food or rent or study or even a college fund. They just don't mention it because it's unprofessional, and it's not selling the product on its merits, it's selling yourself. Which is fine if you're asking for emergency donations (some of which I have gladly contributed to) but 99% of running a business should NOT be charity work.

And slightly OT - steamfashion is becoming EVEN MORE of a case of who can be the better sycophant. Having a supportive community is one thing, but these days the mods aren't even trying to maintain the illusion of impartiality.

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jadedeath December 15 2009, 05:14:13 UTC
Isn't it just scary though ( ... )

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msmcknittington December 15 2009, 05:47:38 UTC
And slightly OT - steamfashion is becoming EVEN MORE of a case of who can be the better sycophant. Having a supportive community is one thing, but these days the mods aren't even trying to maintain the illusion of impartiality.

Good god. Doesn't it just make you sick? Sometimes I feel that it's not so much a steampunk fashion community so much as it is a "promote the mods' friends" community.

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warriorsmurf December 15 2009, 07:23:07 UTC
I'm kind of over steampunk because that community annoys me so much. The punk thing is about DIY and individuality, and while I can respect your expensive outfit as art, it's not punk in any way! Plus that particular group of people seems to think steampunk is exclusively Victorian. Blah.

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frabjously December 15 2009, 07:48:57 UTC
BrassGoggles is a lot better IMO for meeting like-minded people.

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jadedeath December 15 2009, 16:30:39 UTC
Yes, but like every disease, stupidity is contagious.

Apparently it works doubly for the internet as it's spread over to BrassGoggles:

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20376.0.html

Thankfully they have far LESS power over there than they do in steamfashion.

Logan

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frabjously December 16 2009, 04:19:39 UTC
To be fair, it's pretty hard to find a place with some stupidity.

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jadedeath December 15 2009, 16:26:59 UTC
That's exactly it, the post that set me off is the one where said person is talking about the mod talking them into getting into their business.

Logan

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msmcknittington December 16 2009, 01:10:33 UTC
Wait, what? I missed that one! Can you link me?

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jadedeath December 16 2009, 02:20:17 UTC
http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/2276316.html

At least that's what I took the first part to be, the reason why they're in business is to take advantage of the steampunk craze, something that said moderator has been critical of people doing over on brassgoggles.

Logan

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msmcknittington December 16 2009, 02:27:15 UTC
Ooh, I misinterpreted what you meant with your above comment. I thought you meant that a moderator had become part of someone's business, i.e. they were collaborators or had invested money in it or were getting kickbacks. But, blah, jaborwhalky. That's enough for me.

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frabjously December 15 2009, 11:50:23 UTC
I really think a no advertising rule is the way to go, a little like what craftgrrl has set up. You can show off your pics, just don't link to your shop. If people really want to know where they can buy stuff they can look on your LJ profile.

As for the steamjunk (great word btw) it'd be kind of difficult to implement a rule for *only* good items, but I think the above rule would cut down on a lot of junk.

Of course I'm living in fantasy-land to believe that any of this will ever happen.

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jadedeath December 15 2009, 16:38:46 UTC
There comes a point where over-exposure crosses that extremely thin line into being spam.

It would be one thing if people kept mentioning this one designer's clothing over and over again, and people got pointed in that direction {like Kambriel or Brute Force Leather} but it's something completely different to wish people a happy holiday, {just that nothing else} and then put the link to your website underneath it.

I mean a few days ago said person posted *3* times in the span of 24 hours. That's a little much for most people's OWN journals, let alone on a community that you're not moderating {unless they ARE moderating it...?}

Logan

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