Walt/Jesse Recap (Part 8/9)

Dec 02, 2012 23:26


The Long Winded Blues of The Never
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cylune9 December 4 2012, 00:11:12 UTC
Awesome!!!!! I'll make a longer post when I have more free time but, as an accountant, I cannot stay silent about the missing '0' in $737,000. Please fix it? Thank you.

Yes, I have issues.

awesome analysis, again. :)

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falafel_musings December 4 2012, 17:59:13 UTC
Fixed!! Thanks for pointing this out. I'm good with words but I'm sooo numbers dyslexic. I thought that there should've been another zero but I'd convinced myself that it would mean Walt was after 7 million and 37 and that wouldn't have made sense in Jesse's reasoning.

Anyway - thanks for the correction!

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pgilmour December 4 2012, 02:22:22 UTC
I love your reviews! They are so in line with my thinking about these two. I'm so glad someone else shares my obsession ( ... )

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falafel_musings December 4 2012, 19:17:42 UTC
Reading your favourites and your predictions it seems our thoughts are definitely correlating. I was looking back over my Walt/Jess recaps and the longest ones were for Fly and Half Measures. Fly is the quintessential Walt & Jesse episode for me though the last two episodes of S2, S3 and S4 have all had some epic Walt/Jesse moments too. I just hope the S5 climax will be just as focused on their relationship. Other fans have speculated things like "What if Walt is coming back to rescue Junior?" which would be plausible but...yeah, I'd be bummed too. It just seems like the final act should come back to the core partnership. Walt's family has actually become secondary even though Walt's original motivations were all about his family ( ... )

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pgilmour December 4 2012, 19:45:28 UTC
It just seems like the final act should come back to the core partnership. Walt's family has actually become secondary even though Walt's original motivations were all about his family ( ... )

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falafel_musings December 4 2012, 20:46:01 UTC
And why can't I make your comments that I'm responding to be in italics?

If you want to put my comments in italics in your LJ reply then you need to put < i > at the start of the sentence and < /i > at the end of the sentence. Only remove the spaces between the i's an the >

I'll respond to the rest of your awesome comment later but I wanted to help you with that because I find LJ coding tricky too...

ETA: ...like how my demonstration just failed!

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cylune9 December 4 2012, 04:21:43 UTC
Sorry about the earlier comment. Some people are grammar police. I'm another kind of those type of people.

So I tend to think of Dennys as a Walt & Jesse place

Yep, me too. That's why this particular restaurant is on my 'I absolutely have to eat there' list.

Mike lowers his gun with a very world-weary "Oh Jesse..."

Oh Mike. I love you.

When the three guys drive away we get a shot of Mike and Walt sitting in the front of the car and Jesse in between them on the backseat. In S5 we get an awful lot of shots with Walt and Mike at either sides of the frame and Jesse in the middle in the background.

Great observation. Jesse was the only thing making this partnership work.

If there's one passion that Walt and Jesse share it's their love of committing elaborate felonies with science.

lol!!! So true.

I don't think there was anything sadistic about this manipulation. Walt's purpose was to get Jesse to stop worrying over the ricin, lest Jesse begin to suspect Walt of lifting it again.Oh, wow. wow. I never thought of it that way ( ... )

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cylune9 December 4 2012, 04:22:32 UTC
Continued...

Mike at least advises Jesse to look out for himself which is a nice contrast to Walt demanding that Jesse devote his life to serving the cult of Heisenberg.

Mike. :'(

hey, leave the go-carts alone

I love your protectiveness of go-carts. ;)

Walt desperately screams after Jesse that if he leaves he'll have nothing but as Jesse walks out the door it really feels like Walt is the one being left destitute.

Best. Feeling. EVER!!!! Say My Name is the first episode I watched live and I was such on the edge of my seat for this scene. It's probably the most satisfying ending of a scene I've ever seen anywhere. I was so proud of Jesse for not falling for Walt's 'Greatest Hits' eh.

In the aftermath of losing Jesse, Walt had to listen to Jesse heroically offering to get Mike's bag and Mike nobly telling Jesse not to put himself in harm's way; two friends having each others back; exactly the kind of bond Walt always liked to he and Jesse shared.Oh the look Walt gave Jesse. I think he was jealous or at least very annoyed. ( ... )

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falafel_musings December 4 2012, 21:14:49 UTC
You must take photos of you having pancakes in Walt & Jesse's Dennys! I will cry!!

Walt was... Oh God help me... actually trying to be helpful.

Yeah I think Walt really did want to stop Jesse beating himself up over the lost ricin. But Walt was helping himself too. If Jesse couldn't find the ricin anywhere and if he felt sure that he hadn't lost it then Jesse might go back to his original (correct) theory that Huel took it out of his pocket. Walt needed to give Jesse closure to save himself from suspicion. I think it was Vince Gilligan who talked about Walt's motivations in the podcast and how Jesse's breakdown was just an unforeseen bonus.

Walt needs to be worshiped and appreciated. And like you said, he's not getting that appreciation from Skyler (or Junior) but Jesse fulfill that need. And in the process, Walt is becoming more emotionally dependent on his relationship with Jesse. Skyler and Junior have both drifted away and found substitutes for Walt in the last year - Skyler with her affair with Ted and Junior finding a ( ... )

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cylune9 December 5 2012, 03:07:34 UTC
I think it was Vince Gilligan who talked about Walt's motivations in the podcast and how Jesse's breakdown was just an unforeseen bonus.

Unforeseen bonus?? Unforeseen bonus?????. Oh, fuck me. I hate you Walt. No I don't but yeah I do. You despicable human being.

I've posted some of my own thoughts above.

Yeah, I've seen it and I'm in total agreement with everything.

1) What do you consider to be the best episodes or scenes for the Walt/Jesse relationship so far?
The usual suspects - The Fly, 4 Days Out/Over, ABQ... and Box Cutter. I don't include season 5 episodes because the relationship is all based on lies and manipulations.

2) Where do you predict that Jesse is at the time of Walt's Denny's flashforward?

In danger. ;)

3) What would be your ideal ending for the Walt and Jesse story?I... truly don't know. One part of me wants Jesse to be completely fee of Walt but another part cherish that relationship and I want Jesse to be there for Walt until his last moment. I think I'll be ok with anything as long as it's done well. ( ... )

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pgilmour December 5 2012, 16:48:58 UTC
Maybe... Jesse learns what Walt's done (or part of what he's done) but he finds it in him to forgive him and be there for Walt until the end. Yeah, I think I would like that ending.

Me too! That's my dream ending!

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bb8675309 December 4 2012, 04:27:16 UTC
Awesome job. I love every word you write in these reviews. You bring out the intimate details in the relationships and remind me of all the moments I loved (or loved to hate) in the show. Really in depth into their psyche, especially Jesse, which is fantastic. I really enjoy the dynamics between Jesse/Walt/Mike. Ahh so great.

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falafel_musings December 4 2012, 23:03:02 UTC
Thanks so much for reading and commenting. I think at this stage in the show I find it easier to focus on Jesse's perspective, just because he's so much more human than Walt. I'm glad you liked my little insights.

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