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[eldarwannabe]

Ok, before I say anything else!

1 - I've read very, very few X-Men comic books. Certainly never read Days of Future Past. (XMEN COMICS ARE THE MOST TWISTED LABYRINTH DISASTER AREA OF STORYTELLING HOLY MOLY.)

2 - I've not seen the original X-trilogy movies in a while. (I'm putting this up before my rewatch on purpose.)

3 - I've only seen the X-

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[pocky_slash]

Those are totally legitimate fears/frustrations! I have a lot of frustrations myself, though some of mine are a little different than yours, probably because you haven't read the DoFP comics XD (It's only a two issue arc, if you're interested in picking it up

[eldarwannabe]

(Huh, two issues? About Kitty, probably? NOW I'm interested.)

See, I almost feel like if it was about Shadowcat, I would be way more forgiving. She hasn't starred in five X-men movies already! (THEY HAVEN'T EVEN CAST HER CONSISTENTLY.) But the old dudes would still bother me, probably.

MOAR LADIES JEEZ.

XMFC def established itself as completely separate from the original X-trilogyYES. And I love it. Singer did some great stuff, but he was off the title, and I want the team that did First Class again. And I was willing to forgive all the plot errors because I assumed walking out the theater DAY ONE that this was OBVIOUSLY a slightly different X-universe. ARGH

[pocky_slash]

Yup! It's totally about Kitty! This was her big breakout event, not long after she joined the team. It was during the Claremont years and it's one of those stories that's universally loved, so I'd def recommend reading it if you get a chance. I really love the Claremont era.

I understand, logically, that Wolverine sells movie tickets, but I'm still SO ANGRY when I think about him being the time traveler. UGH. I thought that even if they didn't use Kitty, they would hopefully go with Mystique since Jennifer Lawrence is such a big name now, but alas >:(

I didn't know that it was such a sleeper hit! I assumed everyone knew it would be awesome. SO, the story of XMFC is that Fox had the movie rights for X-Men and Marvel was itching to get them back, so Fox had to put a rush on a new X-Men movie just as they were on the cusp of expiring. They rushed the script for XMFC (which shows in the ending) and never expected it to do very well or cared if it did well at all, as long as it meant Fox could keep the rights, but surprise! They hired a

[eldarwannabe]

You're going to get me to read X-Men comics, aren't you

[ericadawn16]

I had also been worried about this

[eldarwannabe]

The women ratio was really horrible in the end! Otherwise, I liked it overall. :D

[90scartoonman]

First Class was so good it managed to usurp established X-Men movie canon for me. Women and POC are very tough. It's like "Hey, let's diversify our cast a bit, we can really mix things up with these lesser known X-characters...of course, we know people are here for the iconic ones, so we can't harm them and have to give them the most screentime".

It'd be great if they did an X-Men Second Class with older members from the first movie and young Scott, Jean, Ororo, etc in there and then the third one was Days of Future Past, but I can see why they did what they did.

[eldarwannabe]

I assumed First Class was rebooting the whole franchise and ignoring the earlier films, so I have to say that I was actually pretty disappointed when that turned out NOT to be true....

That said, I have long been a strong advocate of recasting white men as women and/or POC in movies. Just because the original product came out in a much more sexist/racist time doesn't mean we have to advocate for that NOW. The average movie watcher doesn't know that black Nick Fury comes from the Ultimates comics and yet they still come to the movies. So just do more creative casting! (TALKING TO YOU JJ ABRAMS)

Now having seen the film I'm a little worried that the next one is going to be about present!Wolverine in his brand-new universe, even though I would still far prefer to see more of the First Class people. (And I would be SO HAPPY with young Jean, Scott, Ororo, etc. as well.) I'm a little bit convinced that it's going to depend on how much involvement Singer has with the future films...

[90scartoonman]

First Class had contradicted some stuff in the Original Trilogy and X-Men Origins: Wolverine, so it was a soft reboot already