Comments | always_wright: Death Penalty Week

always_wright

Death Penalty Week

Mar 02, 2006 11:37

Supposedly it's some kind of Death Penalty Week. I read about it in my Cornell Catholic Bulletin. That's why there were all the liberal hippies passing out fliers in Ho Plaza this week. The liberal activists up here are starting to get on my nerves. First, I was in the grocery store and this family behind me in line was talking about when they ( Read more... )

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thatothersteve March 2 2006, 17:54:49 UTC

I'm a liberal, and I want everything mentioned in your post to die. Convicts, fetuses, and Dick Cheney. Any one of those things dying is A-OK with me.

Cheney the most. He and Bush have destroyed international relations for our country for years to come. Irreparable damage. It's going to take 20 years for people to realize exactly how *bad* they fucked us, the Bush Administration. But they'll learn. Just like they did with that Cocksucker Reagan. People are now beginning to recognize what a pathetic president he was.

always_wright March 2 2006, 18:05:22 UTC

Please check out http://www.opinionjournal.com/hail/rankings.html. It's a ranking from the Wall Street Journal on U.S. Presidents. Reagan is ranked 8 out of 39 (it only goes up to Clinton). I don't think 8 is very *pathetic.*

thatothersteve March 2 2006, 18:28:53 UTC

*shudder* Economic prestige does not a president make. Reagan was bad for the infrastructure of America. Taxes raised from 8% to 10.5% for lower class citizens while Reagan was in office, while taxes for the richest 20% in the country fell over 5%. That doesn't make sense. Take money from those who need it... give it back to those who have a plethora. Brilliant! Reagan is also the guy who made it inexpensive for companies to begin outsourcing jobs, which hurts the American economy long-term. Unemployed people lack funds to buy goods. Especially when you cut out hundreds of social programs, like Reagan did. The Wall Street guys love Reagan because stocks climbed throughout his tenure, following the early recession that (admittedly) he did a good job of fixing. But again... the long-term ramifications of his presidency were nothing short of terrible ( ... )

always_wright March 2 2006, 19:07:18 UTC

When Reagan entered office the nation was in a severe economic crisis. The economy suffered from double-digit inflation (making planning very unpredictable) and 20% interest rates (making mortgages prohibitive for most people). Nearly eight million were unemployed. Workers had suffered a 5% decline in real hourly wages over the previous five years, while federal personal taxes for the average family had gone up 67%. The national debt was approaching $1 trillion. I doubt the “underprivileged and poor… the staple of the economy” were very happy under these cirmstances ( ... )

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smithers_pop904 March 3 2006, 00:17:59 UTC

As a die-hard liberal, I must also speak out. I was disappointed that Cheney was not the one shot, not because I want him dead, but I think it would be a deliciously ironic that a man who consistently advocates the use of torture against detainees would suddenly find himself the victim. As for liberals being anti-death penalty and pro-choice, I think the main thing is that you're not drawing the line in the right place. As for myself and most of my fellow NYU liberals, there is the general notion that you can be anti-abortion/death while still maintaining a pro-choice outlook. I personally do not agree with abortion in all but the most extreme cases; I just don't feel that the federal government has the right to make that decision for any woman. I don't support the act, but it's not for the government to say. In the argument right above me, there's mention of Reagan's economic policy, the trickle down effect which Bush advocates. Here's another reason why I disagree with the Republican position. It just doesn't work. When you want to ( ... )

iheartelephant March 6 2006, 23:06:25 UTC

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey... for once, I agree with you on someting. I also do not think that the government should be able to decide that right for any woman, but on the otherhand... No woman should be able to decide the fate of any unborn child; Life isn't a legal right, it's a moral one! Thats pretty much all I have to agree with you on, if you can even call that and agreement? Ha! I got your back Leah!

smithers_pop904 March 7 2006, 05:36:49 UTC

I agree that life is a moral right, however it is also a legal one ( ... )

xloveandloathex March 7 2006, 22:08:27 UTC

so you're pro-life? i dont get it. and i honestly dont see why abortion should be such an important issue, because honestly....it isn't.

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xloveandloathex March 3 2006, 08:13:52 UTC

first and foremost. i honestly dont care about politics and dont really know more than a few basics. i mean as far as im concerned, im getting the fuck out of this shithole CUNTry no matter who's in power. from what i can tell leah and smitty were just spitting numbers back and forth which in the long run really dont mean shit anyway, since 'math' people should know that statistical data can be fucked with easily anyway and still be 'true.' from what i can tell smithwick definitely wins this argument, eventhough i frankly dont give a shit. i mean if you look at it now, we arent in too good of a situation but we're not really in a bad one either i would say. but i do think that perhaps conservatives should run things for a little while. balance is good. in my opinion anyway. also. i would like to point out that mike smith is an uneducated little bitch. he obviously has no god damn idea what he is talking about and he should leave grown up talk to the big boys (and girls and other such mature organisms). if anything i think he hurt ( ... )

smithers_pop904 March 3 2006, 08:58:03 UTC

So you resort to immature name calling to call me immature... great way to make a point. I really don't know what happened between the end of summer and now, but something definitely changed. I was going to make a point of calling you over spring break to talk through things, but I now see that that would serve no purpose. Thanks for saving me the effort.

xloveandloathex March 3 2006, 21:50:26 UTC

no problem cocksucker. your the biggest hypocrite anyway and are worth about as much as the gum on the bottom of my shoe

xloveandloathex March 3 2006, 21:52:57 UTC

no problem cocksucker. your the biggest hypocrite anyway and are worth about as much as the gum on the bottom of my shoe. grow a personality and some balls then maybe ill let you talk to me

always_wright March 3 2006, 23:33:00 UTC

Chris is right. Numbers can be skewed any way you want them to be read. Therefore, pretty much both Smithwick and my arguments were undoubtably biased, and I definitely didn't mean to start such heated conflict. And I also just wanted to say, that George W. has made a few mistakes, but do you want to know what I blame it on? He always has to appease the frickin' liberals of the country and be all "human rights" yada yada. Well, if he had been allowed to just go into the middle east and bomb the hell out of them like we did in Japan after Pearl Harbor, everything would be much better. Everyone in this freaking country is too "let's have everyone in the world love us" - EFF THAT! Let's have everyone in the world pissing-their-pants scared of us! People have no American pride. Gosh.

thatothersteve March 4 2006, 01:19:18 UTC

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My arguments aren't biased. All of my thoughts and beliefs are based on analysis, thought, and reflection. The only statistics I stated were facts in the very first anti-Reagan comment.

...Nobody has EVER beaten the Muslims in the Middle East. Do you think that bombing hell out of them would help us? No fucking way. It would fuck us. If you nuked them, you would drastically reduce quality of life in this country. That's the most dangerous, inane, horrible idea/thought/belief that you uninformed Republicans hold. It's that train of thought that destroys my faith in this country. No american pride? Are you joking? I care enough about this country to argue for it's betterment. Unfortunately, however, it appears that we have a party and a fad in our country that seeks to disrupt the entire world. If you nuke the middle east, there are terrorist attacks here every day. 9/11 level damage every day. If not worse. You enrage every muslim on the planet... as opposed to the <1% of the muslim world that actively seeks to ( ... )

always_wright March 4 2006, 01:43:58 UTC

Okay, Smithwick. Keep telling yourself that. Make friends with the Muslim world. Pussy foot around like you liberals do. Don't take any action. Whatever. This is a fruitless argument. No one's going to change anyone else's opinions. And p.s. I am not uninformed. I was the President and Cofounder of the Teenage Republicans Club at South Fork and then the President of the County-wide Teenage Republicans Club. But okay. Again, whatever you say.

thatothersteve March 4 2006, 02:12:40 UTC

I know 1 informed republican in the whole of Martin County. Being president of a republican club in Martin County simply makes you the pide piper of ignorance. I've been discussing things like this statewide for 3 years. There are respectable conservatives, conservatives that I like and can banter with without hostility. But not in Martin County. Martin County Republicans are Republican because mommy and daddy said they should be, or because they think all liberals are tree-huggers, or some stupid shit like that. Teenagers in general don't know shit... save for a select few.

Besides, I have little to no respect for the intellectualism of South Fork. I was originally destined to go there, and to a degree, I'm glad I didn't... I'm sure you know all the stereotypes of South Fork. You're helping to reinforce them with every comment you add :)

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Hate Me anonymous March 7 2006, 04:59:35 UTC

Firstly, thatothersteve- go fuck yourself. I guarantee that you don't know every republican from Martin County. Don't ever assume that you know me. You don't. I extend you that courtesy, and that is the only one I will extend to you from now on. You don't know me or anyone from my neighborhood. I come from hick-ville where the vast majority of kids are republican, as are the parents. The kids are republican because that's what they believe in. They were forced to constantly defend their positions because I sponsored weekly debates between unprepared middle school students and experienced liberal teachers on current events. The students got to defend their beliefs from well-planned assaults on important political issues. Can you claim as much? My beliefs are constantly under siege, because that's the way I like it. If I cannot adequately defend my beliefs I change them. I was raised by one Republican and one Democrat, and you can go to hell if you believe in it. if you don't, choose something roughly analogous and take offense as ( ... )

Re: Hate Me xloveandloathex March 7 2006, 22:16:48 UTC

firstly, whoever wrote this is a douchebag. secondly why can't we all be nice, please? honestly i dont know much about the details on politics, but i know for a fact that you are ranting over nothing. i don't think i read a single reasonable argument for whatever point you were trying to make. please clarify and what not...

Re: Hate Me anonymous March 7 2006, 23:39:02 UTC

Sorry you don't like me, chris. Then again, your cocksucker argument was kind of surprising, too. I guess we all change after high school. I'd rather be nice and polite. I think everyone's political opinions are their own and not subject to attack from others, but when somebody tells me that they know everything about me I get a bit pissed off. All I'm asking for is respect. After all, I respect everybody else, even thatothersteve. I never assume that I know him or anything about him other than what he's written down. I just want the same respect that I give to everyone else.I really do believe in making prisoners work, but that's probably because I'm a fascist asshole, so it's understandable that nobody agrees with me.

I'm not really sure what you'd like me to clarify, but if there's a point you don't understand or that I made badly just ask and I'll try to fix it.

Thanks for being a voice of reason.

Re: Hate Me xloveandloathex March 8 2006, 01:53:07 UTC

i never changed. im the same as ive always been. youre the one that changed or rather stayed the same for the worst. now your just seeing the side of me that you never got to see during high school. the side of me that doesnt give a shit about anything and believes in morals over politics, and as far as respect i always give respect to those who deserve it.the things that i dont respect are lack of individuality, lack of charisma, and ignorance in the practical sense among other things. personally i think murderers, rapists and child abusers should be put to death after torture. but thats just how i roll.

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