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Death Penalty Week

Mar 02, 2006 11:37

Supposedly it's some kind of Death Penalty Week. I read about it in my Cornell Catholic Bulletin. That's why there were all the liberal hippies passing out fliers in Ho Plaza this week. The liberal activists up here are starting to get on my nerves. First, I was in the grocery store and this family behind me in line was talking about when they ( Read more... )

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thatothersteve March 2 2006, 17:54:49 UTC

I'm a liberal, and I want everything mentioned in your post to die. Convicts, fetuses, and Dick Cheney. Any one of those things dying is A-OK with me.

Cheney the most. He and Bush have destroyed international relations for our country for years to come. Irreparable damage. It's going to take 20 years for people to realize exactly how *bad* they fucked us, the Bush Administration. But they'll learn. Just like they did with that Cocksucker Reagan. People are now beginning to recognize what a pathetic president he was.

always_wright March 2 2006, 18:05:22 UTC

Please check out http://www.opinionjournal.com/hail/rankings.html. It's a ranking from the Wall Street Journal on U.S. Presidents. Reagan is ranked 8 out of 39 (it only goes up to Clinton). I don't think 8 is very *pathetic.*

thatothersteve March 2 2006, 18:28:53 UTC

*shudder* Economic prestige does not a president make. Reagan was bad for the infrastructure of America. Taxes raised from 8% to 10.5% for lower class citizens while Reagan was in office, while taxes for the richest 20% in the country fell over 5%. That doesn't make sense. Take money from those who need it... give it back to those who have a plethora. Brilliant! Reagan is also the guy who made it inexpensive for companies to begin outsourcing jobs, which hurts the American economy long-term. Unemployed people lack funds to buy goods. Especially when you cut out hundreds of social programs, like Reagan did. The Wall Street guys love Reagan because stocks climbed throughout his tenure, following the early recession that (admittedly) he did a good job of fixing. But again... the long-term ramifications of his presidency were nothing short of terrible ( ... )

always_wright March 2 2006, 19:07:18 UTC

When Reagan entered office the nation was in a severe economic crisis. The economy suffered from double-digit inflation (making planning very unpredictable) and 20% interest rates (making mortgages prohibitive for most people). Nearly eight million were unemployed. Workers had suffered a 5% decline in real hourly wages over the previous five years, while federal personal taxes for the average family had gone up 67%. The national debt was approaching $1 trillion. I doubt the “underprivileged and poor… the staple of the economy” were very happy under these cirmstances ( ... )

always_wright March 2 2006, 19:08:40 UTC

P.S. I looked up all of the exact percentages and numbers off Wikipedia.com - I didn't just make them up.

thatothersteve March 2 2006, 19:19:11 UTC

Wikipedia does not make things factual, as anyone can change or add them. I support my information with a credible source; Edsall and Edsall's "Chain Reaction", a required text for my US History since '73. I deem that infinitely more credible than Wiki.

always_wright March 2 2006, 19:48:41 UTC

As a chemical engineering major, I do not own any history textbooks, so I used the resources I could. I didn't make my response an in-depth historical analysis as I am trying to study for a Physics Prelim! :)

thatothersteve March 2 2006, 19:22:50 UTC

As regarding your lovely Opinionjournal link, why don't you click it and then click on the tab reading overrated presidents? Why, that's your boy Reagan at #2. Captain overrated.

always_wright March 2 2006, 19:42:59 UTC

As regarding my lovely Opinionjournal link, why don't you click it and then click on the tab reading underrated presidents? Why, that's my boy Reagan at #1. Captain UNDERRATED.

thatothersteve March 2 2006, 20:14:14 UTC

*shrug* I'm studying for an Organized Crime mid-term...

And, as any math major can tell you, the percentage of overrated votes he receives far outweighs that of underrated.

But even still; All of this cancels itself out. The glowing message on returns? Mediocrity... at best. For every good thing he did for our country, two negatives came of it. He helped correct a significant economic downturn, but at a direct cost of our long-term economic future while also piling up massive debt. Say what you want about Clinton... but he left a budget *surplus*. Not deficit. And the years under his terms were, as I'm sure you remember, were stout. Certainly part of this is due to circumstance, but just as much is due to his informed economic plan... whereas Reagan's negative impact can be felt to this day. Terrorism? He *created* it. Iran Contra. Afghanistan. His unholy alliance with the Bushes has made politics hell for America for at least the rest of this century. And that's a conservative guess. They three fucked us. So bad.

always_wright March 2 2006, 21:00:41 UTC

Okay Smithwick. Whatever you say. Reagan did way more good than bad... and don't even get me started on Clinton. My physics prelim is coming on way too quickly. See you over spring break maybe!

It's Wes thatothersteve March 4 2006, 03:15:17 UTC

Reagan did more good than bad? Reagan completely changed the social structure of our nation. Our nation went from one that cares about the people, cares about who and to a nation caring about what, materialism became acceptable, even looked favorably upon. The worker no longer mattered, profits mattered. The poor became dirt poor while the wealthy became filthy fucking rich. Under Reagan the accumulation of wealth was consolidated in the hands of a very few select people while the masses were left to fend for themselves, and for many to litterally resort to eating rats ( ... )

Re: It's Wes always_wright March 7 2006, 04:47:34 UTC

Hi Wes. Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner; Steve was visiting ( ... )

Re: It's Wes thatothersteve March 8 2006, 01:20:51 UTC

So basically all the good things that happened under Clinton are because of Reagan... the bad things because of Clinton, as for the bad things under Bush... they're Clinton's fault... they good things can be attributed..... well they didnt happen ( ... )

My Response Was Too Long, So I Had To Make It 2 Posts thatothersteve March 8 2006, 01:22:28 UTC

Finally, you should look at your own paragraph. I hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of Americans are not free. They are forced into bad jobs that pay horribly, and so they can't afford an adequate education for their children (all because Republicans believe the profits of a select few are more important than the well being of all). The middle class has to go to college so that it can remain in the middle class by getting a decent job. Middle class members then spend the first 5 years of their lives paying off debts accrued in school, or searching for a good job that isn't there because companies are busy giving jobs to cheaper employees in other countries. We then spend the next 20 years battling to put our own children through college so that they can repeat the cycle. Meanwhile the select few pay a smaller % of taxes than the 80% of people in the middle class, their children go to select colleges for the rich, and get select jobs not open to anyone else because of who they met in college, and the parents of those ( ... )

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