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Yesterday I got into an unpleasant discussion with another LJ user on the topic of Child Protection Agencies and the removal of children from their homes wither upon the determination of, or while the situation is being investigated whether the child is safer being removed from the parents or the current place of residence
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You mean that the only children that may be left at home are those who are not harmed by their in *any* way? Any way at all? How many would that leave?
THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU, and it is not even about YOUR rights.
And it's going to happen within the framework of the imperfect but definitely functioning system, that really doesn't care about you or your privileged spawn shivering with terror of being separated
Fair enough, but is it really that "grotesque" to be protective of ones rights in dealing with a system that starts with the premise of not caring about you or your rights?
This is about the children who are starved, beaten, raped, burned, tied up, put away in cages, poisoned, frozen, made ill, molested, left alone for hours, not treated for illness, given drugs or alcohol, and psychologically abused by threats or screaming, or kids who have to live in dirty and dangerous shelters because the parents ( ... )
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no, i don;t think either I, or anyone in their right mind would legally be able to prove it to be abuse.
Made ill how?
how about by laying in their own feces for a few weeks?
Not treated from what illness?
how about ADD?
You make all of these sound so clear-cut. And as for threats and screaming, I think that most of my Russian Jewish "privileged spawn" friends are still dealing with decades-old trauma based on that. Should we all have been institutionalized long ago?DO I make them sound clear cut? Or is that your interpretation ( ... )
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How about ODD?
How much are Scientologists paying you for this performance?
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I think she has made every possible valid and educated objection to what I had to say. If she missed anything, enlighten me.
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To paraphrase George Orwell, I have no particular love for the idealized ‘parent’ as he appears in the bourgeois mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood parent in conflict with his natural enemy, the rat, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on.
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but you know what - I do not want to talk to you. not here, not about this. If you are angry and haven't slept and need to lose the last two people in the world who love you and care for you, be an asshole and keep antagonizing me. But for once, stop quoting other historical assholes and use your own words. Just as a matter of final courtesy.
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