Posing as an academic for a change

[zenkatsuo]

I haven't written a proper rambling entry in a long while. Likely because I've been hung up about homework and bidding on auctions every single night for the past God knows how long. Like all my entries after a while in posting, this one too is about nothing that's actually happened. Nothing much happens to me anyway.

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[chrysa]

Well look, I'll get to that shit later.

Haha, nice pun? In Under Grand Hotel, there was a small mention of it, when one of the prisoners tried to rape the... main character. (Wow, I forgot his name. Fail.)

In more cases than not, in yaoi, the anus has always been a surrogate vagina. The physicality of vaginal intercourse in missionary position really can't be duplicated with anal sex in gay men. Which, in the crudest, most graphic possible description, is basically that the anus and vagina aren't located on the same part of the body, hint hint yaoi manga writers. *facepalm*

I guess it's a little bizarre to me that they're bothered by something that's trite in comparison other things wrong with yaoi. =\

I don't... really have anything else to add that's not off-topic.

[zenkatsuo]

I rather think the anus is never anything but a surrogate vagina in BL. It's just kinda frustrating to try and explain some very rare instances where this explanation seems awkward. And those are really few and far between. But really, I think that's the whole point of it, that it's actually female sexuality acted out with male bodies. I have read gay porn written by and aimed at gay men, and it certainly doesn't have the same appeal (while I'm not saying it's without appeal). So the fact that so many BL readers seem to be so blind as to go on thinking for years and years that the authors are morons who have no idea how men fuck makes me very very frustrated. It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to figure it out

[chrysa]

Well, yaoi is predominantly written by and for women. There are a few exceptions to that, but even when male mangaka write yaoi, I feel like there is something... off about it. Presuming they're straight and have not had gay sex or something

[zenkatsuo]

Mm, sorry, I got used to using the term yaoi in reference to noncommercial works, i.e. doujinshi, in my BA work, so now I have trouble using it to refer to commercial works. Actually, appears that the Japanese themselves have no clear picture on how to differentiate between the referents of the two terms. I took my cues on the fact that yaoi was originally coined to refer to fandom generated works. But of course, at the time, there was no commercial equivalent... I guess in The States people generally think yaoi refers to "the hard stuff" and BL is the translation for shounen'ai

[army_kitten]

surrogate vaginas and self-lubricating asses aside, i still think that authors/readers can be morons who have no idea about how the human body works. like that asia watanabe manga with the guy who had "piss and come" exit "at the same time." perhaps the author DOES know that this is physically impossible barring some kind of major malfunction (and if the uke's cock is a surrogate vagina, of course it's possible), but you know there are girls who read that and now think their boyfriends might accidentally piss inside them when they come. i've read too much dan savage not to think that there are gazillions of people walking around who are terribly, dangerously ignorant about sex and the human body.

do i think yaoi should be sex education? no. but i can't help being squicked and annoyed when certain things are so, so wrong. it's just my thing.

this is probably why i much prefer the more realistic kinds of yaoi. how rare it is...

[zenkatsuo]

I had to google Dan Savage to realize I've read his Savage Love at some point. He's cute too. I like Go Ask Alice. Even though its use isn't restricted to University of Columbia students, I like to imagine all the questions come from them. Makes the really moronic questions more funny.

Oh I'm sure there're morons out there. I bet there're even authors who aren't that well versed in human anatomy. But what really makes me irate is people who repeatedly comment along the lines of "LOL A little bit of research would tell the author that THE ASS DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY". Just how many people do they think are involved in the Japanese BL industry? And they think these thousands (tens of thousands?) of people have never realized that they might actually consult a book, the internet, or a gay man? So really, I act superior too, so what's my problem..? I'm just squicked by how people seem to not be able to grasp that BL is not, has never been and will never be about the realities of male homosexual romance. Thus the authors really have no need