Awesome, now I won't be able to watch the new Pirates movie without thinking about Gethsebitch and her Sues. Wah, I was looking forward to that movie. I fear for Penelope Cruz and her character...
And dude, that has got to be the most convoluted backstory/family tree I have ever heard. She's Blackbeard's daughter AND Barbarossa's niece AND Jack Sparrow's 'Wife'? Isn't it a bit creepy for the last two points? I assumed Barbarossa and Jack knew each other a long time...which means Jack possibly knew Kate since she was a small girl. That's creepy. What's next? She's Will's 5th cousin, twice removed and Elizabeth is her Aunt's sister's brother's niece's cousin's third daughter? (<---LoL what would she be? XD)
I know. :( I was a bit excited for it, though disappointed Will and Elizabeth weren't there, and then I read this POS.
Not only that, but Barbossa and Jack HATE each other, but Kate is utterly in love with both. So either she sides with Jack and abandons her beloved uncle, or sides with her uncle and goes against her smoochy-pie. And yes, it's convoluted and really soap opera-ish.
I don't think that Gethsemane knows much about swimming in the sea. At night, in the freezing waters with no flotation devices and heavy clothes in a storm, statying afloat should be next to impossible, let alone swimming towards a vauge object. Why the hell is she going anyway? Will was supposed to be the sacrifice. Just...argh. To say nothing of the Sue's family tree. It's as contrived as finding Jack in a coffin while taking a leisurely stroll in your nightclothes.
I have no idea why Will and Kate both went over. Methinks Gethesemane missed the point of the whole thing.
Word on that, and there's no hinting of it. Just one infodump, "Btw, did you know her father was blah, blah, blah" and so on? Oh well, I guess I should be grateful we don't get a spin-off of her surely Sue mother.
I like how Jack is supposed to be madly in love with this Kate woman, and yet does nothing to oppose her heroic plan to give up her life in exchange for his. All we see is this pathetic half-arsed in this chapter, which really boils down to: "You know what? Don't go", "Oh, but I must", "Oh, all right then", but most of the time he seems pretty "meh" about this whole sacrifice thing. A guy who was really in love would plead, argue, threaten (rinse and repeat) and, if all else failed, clubbered her over the head and left her uncouncious with Tia Dalma. A decent guy (and Gethsemane seems to operate under the idea that Jack Sparrow is one) would not want a perfect stranger to die for his personal fuck-up, not to mention a loved one.
Oh, but then Kate can't get her Heroic Sacrifice and have other characters go on and on about how she gave up so much for her husband!
The heck of it is, Jack IS the sort to do something like that. We saw in the first movie that he was quite willing to get Norrington to have Eliazabeth locked in her cabin during the fight. Granted it was because he didn't want her interefering and not because he loved her, but still!
And Gethesemane's just psychotic. Her avatar in "Haunted" was perfectly fine with Sweeney Todd murdering people and treated his "relapse" in the sequel as some sort of scandalous "But what will the neighbors think?" issue.
The Sue calls herself Blackbeard's daughter? Angelica could kick the Sue's ass from here to Davy Jones' Locker. Come to think of it, Norrington's wig could kick the Sue's ass, so that's not saying much... But I wish Kate (ugh, uncomfortably close to my own name - I feel your pain about the Lilly fairy) would've gotten the same treatment as Angelica in the end of the movie... namely, marooned on an island with no convenient smuggler hideout, with her single shot wasted five seconds after Jack left.
"But I wish Kate (ugh, uncomfortably close to my own name - I feel your pain about the Lilly fairy) would've gotten the same treatment as Angelica in the end of the movie... namely, marooned on an island with no convenient smuggler hideout, with her single shot wasted five seconds after Jack left."
That's why I loved On Stranger Tides. It might not have been the strongest movie in the series, but I spent the whole thing mentally roaring with laughter, seeing how they made canon how Sparrow WOULD have treated a hanger-on like Kate.
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And dude, that has got to be the most convoluted backstory/family tree I have ever heard. She's Blackbeard's daughter AND Barbarossa's niece AND Jack Sparrow's 'Wife'? Isn't it a bit creepy for the last two points? I assumed Barbarossa and Jack knew each other a long time...which means Jack possibly knew Kate since she was a small girl. That's creepy.
What's next? She's Will's 5th cousin, twice removed and Elizabeth is her Aunt's sister's brother's niece's cousin's third daughter? (<---LoL what would she be? XD)
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Not only that, but Barbossa and Jack HATE each other, but Kate is utterly in love with both. So either she sides with Jack and abandons her beloved uncle, or sides with her uncle and goes against her smoochy-pie. And yes, it's convoluted and really soap opera-ish.
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Why the hell is she going anyway? Will was supposed to be the sacrifice. Just...argh.
To say nothing of the Sue's family tree. It's as contrived as finding Jack in a coffin while taking a leisurely stroll in your nightclothes.
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Word on that, and there's no hinting of it. Just one infodump, "Btw, did you know her father was blah, blah, blah" and so on? Oh well, I guess I should be grateful we don't get a spin-off of her surely Sue mother.
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The heck of it is, Jack IS the sort to do something like that. We saw in the first movie that he was quite willing to get Norrington to have Eliazabeth locked in her cabin during the fight. Granted it was because he didn't want her interefering and not because he loved her, but still!
And Gethesemane's just psychotic. Her avatar in "Haunted" was perfectly fine with Sweeney Todd murdering people and treated his "relapse" in the sequel as some sort of scandalous "But what will the neighbors think?" issue.
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Come to think of it, Norrington's wig could kick the Sue's ass, so that's not saying much...
But I wish Kate (ugh, uncomfortably close to my own name - I feel your pain about the Lilly fairy) would've gotten the same treatment as Angelica in the end of the movie... namely, marooned on an island with no convenient smuggler hideout, with her single shot wasted five seconds after Jack left.
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That's why I loved On Stranger Tides. It might not have been the strongest movie in the series, but I spent the whole thing mentally roaring with laughter, seeing how they made canon how Sparrow WOULD have treated a hanger-on like Kate.
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