Comments | xiota: Who killed the electric car???

xiota

Who killed the electric car???

Aug 05, 2006 22:26

I saw the movie of which name is the title of the post and I must say, it got me thinking.

Thought #1: ( Who the hell do these car companies think they are?? )

intellectual masturbation, politics

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fractuality August 6 2006, 07:51:24 UTC

I hope I can see that one. Too bad it's just more of the same depressing stuff but at least it gets the word out.

Oh, and somehow I got conned into going to see Snakes on a Plane on like, opening night. Ha! Lame!

xiota August 6 2006, 08:54:31 UTC

Too bad it's just more of the same depressing stuff

I'm sorry you feel that way...

Also, sorry I didn't include an afk message again tonight. I was distracted by my apartment mate <3

fractuality August 6 2006, 16:02:40 UTC

don't you think it's depressing to discover in depth (I'm sure we both already knew) that some of foundations of this country are corrupt economic models? at least there is hope if consumer demand changes. heh.

and I forgive you. But I'll remember that you've been naughty. ;-) I can't wait to see you. I don't think I can last til then without talking, wanna call me? I just have dancing 4-6 your time today methinks. <3

jon787 August 6 2006, 17:22:53 UTC

I wouldn't say its corrupt, its just not perfect. The system is just a massive set of rules and this ruleset isn't perfect and has various loopholes. Just like a game these loopholes can be used to your advantage.

For example, a vehicle over 8,500 lbs isn't bound by the CAFE requirements. Thats why SUV sizes suddenly jumped, the manufacturers benefit from making vehicles that are larger. This loophole closes in 2011 though, so the era of the huge SUV is ending. Or the era of massive CAFE fines is coming, one of the two.

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jon787 August 6 2006, 14:44:56 UTC

I get 30-40 MPG in my 10 year old Civic. Adam gets similar numbers from his Saturn. Your standard car range fails to take into account the tiny manual transmission cars on the market.

adamjaskie August 6 2006, 18:22:03 UTC

Yes, I can get 40-43 mpg on the highway if I keep my lead foot in check, and mid-30s around town. Gasoline powered cars don't have to be gas hogs, and hybrids really aren't all that great when you factor in battery replacement, extra initial cost, and so forth ( ... )

adamjaskie August 6 2006, 18:26:11 UTC

Also, I think the problem with the EV-1 (GM's electric car), and other electric cars, is that they are very expensive to make (mostly because batteries are expensive). Because of this, they can't price them competitively with ICE cars without making a loss on the sales.

xiota August 6 2006, 21:37:11 UTC

False. Watch the movie.

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