Ok, stat weights?

[swoon_song]

So, had a tiffle with some guildmates today regarding stat weights? Now, I figured that stat weights would remain similar to Cata entry since triage is so important. Like

Comments

[quixotic_coffee]

Well it would help to know if you're talking about a specific class or just healers in general. But as a disc priest I'm doing things differently than in DS. I was all about haste in DS but now I feel that 1. I can't even get enough haste to make a difference now and 2. Spirit Shell makes mastery better than ever. Like a Spirit Shell Greater Heal absorbs more than it heals because of mastery so I'm just going for mastery (unless I get a piece of gear that doesn't have spirit and can't get an upgrade, then I reforge into spirit). Now I haven't really mastered the use of Spirit Shell yet, but whatever. As a healer you want spirit of course. But if you get a piece of gear that is higher in ilevel than a spirit piece then yes that piece may be better because you get such an increase in other states, plus you can still reforge some spirit onto it

[applegoddess]

I think it depends on what you're playing, what your role is, your level of gear, and what your healing preferences are.

Overall though I'd probably say the first priority will be most useful across the board, as prioritizing Spirit over Intellect or preferring gear with more Spirit above everything else seems like it's defeating the point - either find another piece with a Spirit upgrade, or reforge one of the secondary stats. You trade regen for stronger heals, which you'll be adjusting as you get more geared anyway.

I'm gearing up my resto shaman right now and I went from 2800 to 4200 base spirit and spirit flasks+food in raid and I'm not seeing a huge difference while raiding...I'm only doing it because the pieces I'm swapping out have crit on them, and I need to be a bit of a mana battery with my mana tide for guildies.

Healing is a very preference-heavy fight, so outside of certain breakpoints for stats like Haste, it's not that useful to use EJ/Noxxic other than as a reference for what you should get.

[windfury]

The stat weightings were never consistent amongst or even within healing classes during Cata, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Resto shaman were known to stack haste or mastery depending on the scenarios they were playing in and the spec they were running, and there was basically a year long ongoing argument about which build was superior from the beginning of Cata for example. I'm busy working on my shaman and not my alts so I can't really comment on how shaman priorities compare to the priorities of other healing specs, but I know it isn't as simple and clearcut as either list you've given. It will depend on the player, their group, their healing role and the encounters they're doing

[swoon_song]

It was us two shamans and a holy pally talking. Holy pally said it was the same for them as it was shammies. I just tagged it as all healers because we were talking something heealy.

[swoon_song]

Also, I know that for all the classes (and even shaman builds) their weights were different, but compared to Wrath there was a higher weight of mp5/spirit because regen wasn't as big of a deal. I always went with a Spi/Haste/Mastery build myself though.

[cloverwhite]

It depends on gear level and class. My holy pally friend is desperate for more spirit, something really isn't an upgrade for him if it doesn't have spirit on it. He's a great healer, he knows what he's doing, but the lack of regen just shreds his mana.

Shaman seem to have less of a problem with this. Our less than geared resto shaman is hungering for spirit but not near to the degree that the pally is. Bear in mind that intellect before pandas not only increased spell strength but the size of your mana pool, it is slightly lessened in value depending on gear and class because of this. If you're low on the gear scale and an item goes +10 int in exchange for -200 spirit, you're probably not getting a good deal there unless you're a spec that needs less spirit. (I'm not sure where priests and druids stand right now.)

[cvantien]

I main a holy pally and after stacking spirit today I really noticed a difference in my longevity today rather than being constantly OOM on, for example, heroic Brewery. Our Druid healer is keeping intellect and spirit fairly even which seems to be working for him.

[shadwrayvn]

As a resto druid I've been keeping my Intel & spirit pretty even but my pally I definitely try to get spirit since my regen is not so great.

[laudre]

In a post like this, you're going to have to be specific. We have five healing classes with six healing specs between them now, and they all have different mechanics and different stat priorities because of that.

[swoon_song]

I was going to post it as resto shaman, but noxxic says all healers require spirit over intellect first. I was speaking to another resto shaman, but the paladin said that he is the same as shaman and we all require spirit > intellect. My regen has been mostly fine even though I'm not gemming tons of spirit.