The State of the Union...

[woodychitwn]

evil_spork came by after work last night and after finishing up dinner, we sat down with mjollnirr and sparkling wine to watch President Obama's State of the Union... Overall, I enjoyed the speach...  I love hearing President Obama talk...  After 8 years of listening to a frat boy rape the American language, it is reinvigorating to hear someone speak with such

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[midwestcougar]

To be honestly truthful, as a person of the right - I don't like John McCain. I am not going into the reasons why or why I don't agree with Palin continuing to support him. I just don't like him.

[woodychitwn]

*Nods*

I fear that he's a bit too... "Rich White Guy" to be in touch with the Average American.

[midwestcougar]

That is a liberal response. :) No, his ideas of gov't are off course... although if you are a democrat McCain is on the left of the right.

[woodychitwn]

Considering that I'm a Republican... I take offense to those remarks.

The core values of the Republican party have to do with smaller government and the rights of the people. McCain simply isn't in touch with the average American.

[londonwolf]

Totally agree. McCain's statement reeks of rank hypocricy.

Sometimes it does come as a surprise that the UK is more liberal to this stuff. Hell we even have gay police/army federations!

If you're willing to die for your country, then your country should be willing to accept who and what you are.

[woodychitwn]

It's totally O.K. to be gay in the police and fire departments... You'll find them marching in every single gay pride parade. What you'll also find is a large number of veterans. The problem as I see it is that most recent veterans, were never in the closet. They were openly gay, as were their commanding officers. Homosexual activities run RAMPANT in the military... The only ones who believe they don't, are so out of touch as to believe that people like McCain have any idea what they're talking about!

[furrylycan]

I think the reason that was said, is currently in the military, unless you make a big deal about being gay, they wont do anything about it. you have to flaunted it, which in my opinion is irritating as hell, to have any real action taken against you. Granted, this is a generalization made from several of my friends who have been in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 2 years or so, I cant say its 100% true or not

[midwestcougar]

With an aunt and her partner (another woman) who had served in the Gulf War... I agree. If you don't flaunt it or try to get into another solider's pants when there are bigger fish to fry... I don't see where homosexuality should be such a big deal.

[furrylycan]

generalizing what my friends have said again, but they knew who the gay members of their unit where, and no one really cared, the commanding officers and so one would not do anything about it, unless they 'queened out' as my friend called it. was the only time anything happened about it. I didnt ask for an explanation, so idk what exactly that means.

[woodychitwn]

I think that's reasonable... If by "flaunt it" you mean "are overly effeminate". Because otherwise, nearly every single gay man I know who is or was in the military, had sex with some superior-ranking officer, at some point in their career, if not regularly.

[kanickb]

Yea I don't know what was up with that. As a mostly homosexual Soldier, hearing Obama say that the policy will be going away soon did give me great hope. Because it means I have a safety net for my career, and I don't have to be in fear and look over my shoulder all the time in a sense.

To me, it sounds like he's using creativity to mask his personal ambitions. Also, McCain looked like he aged even more when they showed him during the Address :P

[kanickb]

I partially agree with you regarding it being ineffective. It was a step in the right direction, but only a temporary solution in my opinion

[midwestcougar]

If anyone is more in touch with the people it is Glenn Beck, so I wouldn't go as far as calling him a nutcase. What you hear about him is generally taken far out of context by the proggessive media. I was a moderate until I started doing my homework... I got tired of listening to lies.

[graemelion]

A group of constitutional law experts and a few judges have said that Obama can issue an executive order banning discharges due to violation of DADT. He can stop this whole thing right now.

The fact that he chooses not to is why I'm sounding like Exile or SpikedPunch. He knows full well that Congress won't let it fly, and that it's not going to be repealed, and he wants to pin that election promise failure on other people.

[huscoon]

Way to chime in right before I do. Thanks for the shoutout ;)

[graemelion]

*grins* :)

[woodychitwn]

I had pondered that same deal... However, here's the thing... SURE, he could sign a piece of paper and make it disappear. But it'll just pop up again in one form or another. The key, is finding that middle-ground. Making the higher levels of military accept it as a reasonable course of action. Because the lower echelons, as far as I can tell, are all totally kewl with it already.