I'm really excited about hearing Masterplan and The Massacre, for the way they get into the intricacies of the Doctor, and the difficulties in the Doctor/companion relationship. Possibly they will make me like Steven more, because...meh. I don't dislike him, he's funny sometimes, but I've seen...The Chase, The Time Robber, Galaxy 4, and I think maybe one other and he's sort of annoyingly macho.
Have you met Dodo in anything else? I liked her in The War Machines, but she wasn't remarkable and The War Machines is really all about how Ben and Polly are frickin' amazing.
I hope you like Victoria. She is utterly glorious in Tomb of the Cybermen and Enemy of the World, in the way that sheltered little girls thrust into weird situations that they're determined to do something about, however out of their element they may be, are. She's...uh, in my top 15, probably. THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM
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I started liking Steven in The Myth Makers, found him annoying before that. I liked the way he was with Vicki in that, though, and after that I started thinking he was quite brave and a great friend to the Doctor, despite One being often... difficult. He's very good in Masterplan, imo
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I've seen the clip, no spoiler worries. Though I suppose I should WARNING WARNING SPOILERAGE COMING for anyone else reading the rest of this. So...um...all Gallifreyans are crap at driving? Yeah, I dunno. I just hope he continues to leave the breaks on; I love that sound. My thing that bugged about the scene was that while everyone was individually fun in it (except Amy, but she...um, got to chortle for half a second and nothing else; she got lovely bits in other clips though), I really hope that SOMEDAY I get to see the Doctor/River relationship occur in any present sense rather than her explaining details of how the relationship will eventually work from the outside without us ever getting there, because she did it again in the clip and it's going to get tedious. If it weren't for that, her ease in that scene would've rocked more.
Ugh, the whole tone of her relationship with the Doctor feels off to me because of this. I have high hopes for this episode being awesome, which would include her interaction with the Doctor not being exactly the same as in Library/Forest. I like the idea of River, I like Alex Kingston, I like her in fic, but I don't very much when she's actually on screen. I'm expecting this two-parter to turn this around.
POOR DODO. And she is so v not helped by the behind-the-scenes flails that were going on at the time. She is not great, no, though I kind of love her for lots of Gunfighters. And it's so sad because I think Steven works BRILLIANTLY with Vicki and Sara in completely different ways and then it becomes pretty hohum with Dodo, woe.
MASTERPLAN IS AMAZING. I love it and Massacre and how they chose a less well known historical event of horrifyingness and I love them even more for such strong character stuff because GOODNESS KNOWS my least favourite post-2005 meme is there was no character/emotion in classic Who. (Also, just that they decided Steven would be The Star for four weeks and how Hartnell doesn't fluff a SINGLE LINE as the Bishop dude.)
(Sara snarks at the Doctor as she is DYING OF TIME; this makes me ridic pleased even though she is like dying and I think she is greatness and wish they'd kept her on.)
You're so right about Steven working awesomely but in completely different ways with Vicki and Sara, it is so cool. He'll be less interesting with Dodo, then? That makes me sad. Masterplan made me love him a surprising lot.
Sara's death is so tragic and yet she never stops being amazing until she is actual dust! It was a really cool idea, too, the way she died, but how I wish there had been lots and lots more of her. She was excellent. Thankfully the crazy Christmas episodes in the middle of Masterplan allow for some fudging, during which time she totally had more adventures in the Tardis. *nod nod* Also possibly I ship her with Steven.
I want to like Dodo! If some people do, there is something in her to like, I just cannot see what it is yet. Interesting to hear there was behind-the-scenes drama, I didn't know that.
She has Nice Hats. I like a good hat. And she's pretty upbeat, and rather lolariously accepting of being kidnapped in a time machine.
(This is when they were trying real hard to get rid of Hartnell for the first time - in Celestial Toymaker he was originally meant to change into a different actor.)
She's all "I don't mind!" when they, um, let her know that she's just been kidnapped, but then they land and she's all "Of course it's Earth, where else could it be?" I do not get her.
I never knew this, I always thought Hartnell was the one that wanted to leave. Well, can't deny that it was time and it led to a great element of the mythology.
Dodo is GREAT in "The Gunfighters"! I also really like her in "The Ark", but I know some people find her pretty annoying in that one, so that's not an unqualified rec.
Steven! ♥ I love his dynamic with Sara so much, I wish they had had longer together.
I'm very fond of Victoria too - at her best she's marvellously self possessed and capable.
The Ark is what I'm watching right now; The Gunfighters seems to be everyone's choice for the one she's at her best, I hope I like her in that!
They do in my head! At first I was doubtful about Sara's awesome, because she showed up and promptly killed Bret Vyon, and he was Nicholas Courtney! But then she quickly proved how incredible she was. I really liked her so much! I instantly loved that team Tardis.
I'm looking forward to meeting Victoria! It will take a while, though, because I'm on a roll with One, and then am starting Two from the beginning, and I'm not sure at what point she shows up.
Sigh! I love this universe so much! Sometimes it's embarrassingly overwhelming.
RIGHT? You start off all okay then, a procedural, and then you start thinking it's kinda cute, and then you start thinking the characters are pretty cool, and then Nathan Fillion charms you to death. As Nathan Fillion does.
He's better, better than Neil, in so many ways it's almost unreal. Look at Neil's smallness compared to his tallness, his kids-in-the-hall-ness, his just all-in-all-ness.
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Have you met Dodo in anything else? I liked her in The War Machines, but she wasn't remarkable and The War Machines is really all about how Ben and Polly are frickin' amazing.
I hope you like Victoria. She is utterly glorious in Tomb of the Cybermen and Enemy of the World, in the way that sheltered little girls thrust into weird situations that they're determined to do something about, however out of their element they may be, are. She's...uh, in my top 15, probably. THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM ( ... )
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MASTERPLAN IS AMAZING. I love it and Massacre and how they chose a less well known historical event of horrifyingness and I love them even more for such strong character stuff because GOODNESS KNOWS my least favourite post-2005 meme is there was no character/emotion in classic Who. (Also, just that they decided Steven would be The Star for four weeks and how Hartnell doesn't fluff a SINGLE LINE as the Bishop dude.)
(Sara snarks at the Doctor as she is DYING OF TIME; this makes me ridic pleased even though she is like dying and I think she is greatness and wish they'd kept her on.)
Ahem. /squee
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Sara's death is so tragic and yet she never stops being amazing until she is actual dust! It was a really cool idea, too, the way she died, but how I wish there had been lots and lots more of her. She was excellent. Thankfully the crazy Christmas episodes in the middle of Masterplan allow for some fudging, during which time she totally had more adventures in the Tardis. *nod nod* Also possibly I ship her with Steven.
I want to like Dodo! If some people do, there is something in her to like, I just cannot see what it is yet. Interesting to hear there was behind-the-scenes drama, I didn't know that.
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(This is when they were trying real hard to get rid of Hartnell for the first time - in Celestial Toymaker he was originally meant to change into a different actor.)
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I never knew this, I always thought Hartnell was the one that wanted to leave. Well, can't deny that it was time and it led to a great element of the mythology.
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Steven! ♥ I love his dynamic with Sara so much, I wish they had had longer together.
I'm very fond of Victoria too - at her best she's marvellously self possessed and capable.
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They do in my head! At first I was doubtful about Sara's awesome, because she showed up and promptly killed Bret Vyon, and he was Nicholas Courtney! But then she quickly proved how incredible she was. I really liked her so much! I instantly loved that team Tardis.
I'm looking forward to meeting Victoria! It will take a while, though, because I'm on a roll with One, and then am starting Two from the beginning, and I'm not sure at what point she shows up.
Sigh! I love this universe so much! Sometimes it's embarrassingly overwhelming.
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I mean. Yes.
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